08-27-2018, 08:16 AM | #1 |
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Filter GONE!
I can't believe it. I got a new Air Maze filter (the wire screen kind) two weeks ago and yesterday I look under the hood and the screen filter is GONE! I made sure it was tight...I just can't believe it.
It does not appear that one can buy just the wire mesh filter housing or the tightening screw. I still just can't believe it.
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08-27-2018, 08:26 AM | #2 |
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Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't run air filters at all. We never run on gravel roads, so no dust. When you start your car with full choke, gas will drip from the carburetor. With a filter, that gas will accumulate in the filter body. If the engine happens to backfire, it will start that gas on fire. Safety issue.
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08-27-2018, 08:29 AM | #3 |
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@Mike Peters: Hey, nice Farmall. It looks like an M. I have a '46 H with narrow front...
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I lost one years ago then replaced it and drilled & safety wired the wing nut.
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08-27-2018, 08:48 AM | #7 |
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That's just the metal screen insert material. I need the whole screen element (with the ends and the wingnut bolt).
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08-27-2018, 09:33 AM | #8 |
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Time to shop at the local model A parts swaps... I see those parts frequently at swap meets.
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08-27-2018, 09:46 AM | #9 |
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I considered one of those screens until I saw one. Pretty coarse. What is their purpose??. Keep out bugs and small birds perhaps?
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Things APPEAR/DISAPPEAR, in my "MYSTERY" Linen Closet! I'll check & see if it's there!
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I know. I just could NOT make it to the swap in Woodstock, IL this weekend. That being said, I discovered the missing filter yesterday and I wouldn't have known to have bought another at the swap anyways. Making my list for next year I guess.
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08-27-2018, 12:08 PM | #14 |
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Braol: The tractor in my avatar is actually a 1953 Super W6. That's a low profile standard model. Same motor as a Super M. Glad you found your missing screen. mike
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08-27-2018, 12:11 PM | #15 |
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Hmmm......fire hazard huh? Sounds like I should take mine off then. No dirt/dusty roads for my girl anyway. Just wondering when filters were needed as these cars routinely ran on unpaved roads from the beginning?
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So....is it filter on or filter off? Does an increased fire chance negate any future rebuild chances, when we all know A's like to backfire or can. I had one the other day in the garage. As one poster above stated.... " With a filter, that gas will accumulate in the filter body. If the engine happens to backfire, it will start that gas on fire. Safety issue."
A fire would be a game changer........or is fire talk overstated? If it's smart not to have one and Like I said, I run on dry asphalt roads. |
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So, I'm looking at this........anyone using it? https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Ford-Mo...QAAOSw-PFagzgW
This one below says it has "flame arresting mesh" Looks like the one I have now......any thoughts on this claim? https://www.ebay.com/itm/1928-34-For....c100005.m1851 Last edited by bigd1101; 08-27-2018 at 01:47 PM. |
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I have this one and love it. It's a bit more, but the filter is out of the way more than the one in your link.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Model-A-Ford-Air-Filter-System-New-Hi-Boy-Lite-Weight-DESIGN/183367999661?hash=item2ab195a0ad:g:Y5oAAOSwwdpbayf 2
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Good afternoon...K & N makes a filter that will fit on your 'A'. It is much more fire resistant. I did drill a 3/16th drain in mine and it has been working just fine for a number of years...Ernie in Arizona
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I ask "If air cleaners are so useless, why does every modern car have one??"Same with oil filter. I agree that the wiere mesh type air "stainer" is near useless. I run a paper element filter mounted on the radiator stays and wouldn't consider going without one. It is very difficult to install any air filter because of the steering column. Very poor design.
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Like Ernie, I also use the K&N filter and I drilled a couple of very small holes in the bottom in case gas filled up in there.
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Most any wire mesh will stop a flame in it's TRACKS!
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Coat the wire mess by soaking it in oil and letting it drip, then install it. Oil traps and holds the dirt until you rinse it out in kerosene.
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Got a picture to share? And/or a part #?
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Here is a photo of the K&N I use on an original air maze.
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I don't run a filter, the roads are cleaner today than they were in the 20s
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i have the exact setup as 160.
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Thoise things are as useless as flyscreens for a submarine. They CANNOT be fitted here. The steering column is in the way and I'd prefer steering!
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And yes this is not suitable for a RH drive Model A due to the steering box interference.
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Here are my K&N filters. RHD car so I fabricated right angle adaptors at full cross section out of sheet metal as shown in the third pic.
Some (most or Many???) say they are ugly. The oil filter certainly is. I think the more upturned one is cheekily cute! They catch a lot of dirt even on tarsealed roads. And I still get the same 22 to 24 mpg (larger imperial gallons) on a trip at 55 to 60 mph. SAJ IN UK at present PS I just noticed the glass filter bowl in the second pic is half full of water. I had a faulty tank cap, since fixed! Last edited by SAJ; 08-29-2018 at 05:46 AM. Reason: Added a PS |
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 If you use a WIX filter they don't show as much as they are painted black. Or paint your white one black or Ford green. Last edited by Y-Blockhead; 08-29-2018 at 09:48 AM. |
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Y-Blockhead, the ones like yours that point down are not as ugly either. I have not found the correct adaptor in NZ so far. Plus I am always in a hurry to fit a new filter and get going. I forget to paint them and wait for them to dry. Plus again a vertical one can be filled right up before running. I can only fill mine about 2/3 full before fitting.
Then again oil pressure registers within seconds of start up on a new filter on my gauge. When I get back to NZ I will make a concerted effort to find 2 right angle adaptors for my oil filters............maybe. SAJ in Cornwall UK |
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SAJ, I think vendors sell the adaptor you want. That said, I have grafted in right angled adaptors from other cars before today.
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I've seen Argentina cars, with home made plumbing & an Early Ford Oil Bath air cleaner, mounted at the right front of the engine
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It was tired of being teased by the other Model A's and ran away.
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