The Ford Barn

V12Bill · 04-12-2016, 09:15 AM

To stamp a new VIN on a frame to match a title is FRAUD! What if the car/truck was stolen back when and you sell to an out of state person who has to have the VIN verified by state authorities? If the vehicle had been stolen, you refund the money to the buyer and the vehicle is impounded and given to the insurance company or owner of record. You can tool around in your vehicle all smug and satisfied and then something happens and you are left empty handed.

pooch · 04-12-2016, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Marshall V. Daut

I see that "Ronn" briefly described the Deluxe Phaeton, although I was still hoping to see a photo. I don't belong to Facebook and do not wish re-activate my erstwhile account that I was coerced into opening a few years ago. I have never posted on it and when I followed the link to see the cars, Facebook pulled a semi-opaque white curtain over the photos with a request to log in or sign up. 'Not going to happen. So, I guess I won't see the photos that way.

Marshall

I refuse to join that crap facebook site too.

But when I clicked the link and the opaque log in appeared, I just clicked on the pics under the log in, , and got in.

Automotive Stud · 04-15-2016, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by V12Bill

To stamp a new VIN on a frame to match a title is FRAUD! What if the car/truck was stolen back when and you sell to an out of state person who has to have the VIN verified by state authorities? If the vehicle had been stolen, you refund the money to the buyer and the vehicle is impounded and given to the insurance company or owner of record. You can tool around in your vehicle all smug and satisfied and then something happens and you are left empty handed.

Um okay. So what do you suggest? Nobody can build a car out of parts anymore? How is that helping the hobby?

jeep44 · 04-15-2016, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Automotive Stud

Um okay. So what do you suggest? Nobody can build a car out of parts anymore? How is that helping the hobby?

Every guy I ever talked to got the title transferred to their name first, and then when it came back (and the VIN checked in the computers,too)-then they stamped their vehicle with this number. No future owner is going to get "burned" by this vehicle.

Ed Wendell · 04-15-2016, 10:35 PM

"Originally Posted by mhsprecher

Excuse me for my ignorance, but how can a truck cab have a title? I know it is possible, but without an engine or frame with the serial number on it how can it be verified? Don't ask, don't tell, I guess. Maybe there is something about NJ titles that I don't know.

I wanted to go to the auction just to see what happened, but life intervened."

mhsprecher, food for thought on the VIN and just a cab.
On my '53 F100 and on one I gave my son the VIN is on the glove box door, came that way from the factory.

Ed

ronn · 04-16-2016, 07:10 AM

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I was contacted by the auctioneer of this auction on ebay, to sell some of my cars.
apparently this auction did 210,000. with all of the cars and parts brought in from the other sellers as well.
I went to one of this auctioneers auctions 3 years ago, and everything was given away.
In contrast, the prices here were on the high side in many cases, regarding the cars.

04-12-2016, 09:15 AM	#41
V12Bill Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mt. Holly,NJ Posts: 1,822	Re: Torowus auction results To stamp a new VIN on a frame to match a title is FRAUD! What if the car/truck was stolen back when and you sell to an out of state person who has to have the VIN verified by state authorities? If the vehicle had been stolen, you refund the money to the buyer and the vehicle is impounded and given to the insurance company or owner of record. You can tool around in your vehicle all smug and satisfied and then something happens and you are left empty handed.

04-15-2016, 10:35 PM	#45
Ed Wendell Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 149	Re: Torowus auction results "Originally Posted by mhsprecher Excuse me for my ignorance, but how can a truck cab have a title? I know it is possible, but without an engine or frame with the serial number on it how can it be verified? Don't ask, don't tell, I guess. Maybe there is something about NJ titles that I don't know. I wanted to go to the auction just to see what happened, but life intervened." mhsprecher, food for thought on the VIN and just a cab. On my '53 F100 and on one I gave my son the VIN is on the glove box door, came that way from the factory. Ed

04-16-2016, 07:10 AM	#46
ronn Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NNNNNNNNJJJJJJJJJJ Posts: 7,647	Re: Torowus auction results Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I was contacted by the auctioneer of this auction on ebay, to sell some of my cars. apparently this auction did 210,000. with all of the cars and parts brought in from the other sellers as well. I went to one of this auctioneers auctions 3 years ago, and everything was given away. In contrast, the prices here were on the high side in many cases, regarding the cars.