04-17-2020, 11:21 AM | #1 |
Member
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 52
|
Headers
Information on headers cast iron with a Ford part number look like Fenton headers also information on a C69 A engine thanks norm Poquette
|
04-17-2020, 12:13 PM | #2 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Coral Springs FL
Posts: 11,068
|
Re: Headers
Wow! Talk about a nebulous question!
Please provide photos and more info. Fenton headers would not have a Ford part number. Scroll down to 1946 in this chart. http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...el_IDchart.htm Last edited by 19Fordy; 04-17-2020 at 12:20 PM. |
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|
04-17-2020, 12:20 PM | #3 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys
Posts: 10,453
|
Re: Headers
I have heard rumors of Fenton headers with "Ford part numbers" before. I would believe they are a hoax.
Does anyone else remember the supercharged 1948 1/2 ton with a lot of accessories that some dude was trying to pass off as an "Experimental Ford prototype" about 5 years ago? It turned out to be totally bogus, but some people sure were excited it about it for a while. Probably in the same category. |
04-17-2020, 03:34 PM | #4 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: East Hartford, Ct
Posts: 5,898
|
Re: Headers
Seem to recall that there may have been Ford supplied dual exhaust headers provided on police car applications.
__________________
DON'T RECALL DOING SOMETHING FOR MYSELF BASED ON SOMEONE ELSE'S LIKES OR DISLIKES |
04-17-2020, 06:06 PM | #5 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys
Posts: 10,453
|
Re: Headers
I believe it was just a special rear outlet left side manifold, not headers. Someone (Carpenter?) had a bunch they sold.
|
04-18-2020, 09:45 AM | #6 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Charlotte NC KiWi-L100 available here
Posts: 3,002
|
Re: Headers
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
I have 3 sets of them , will take pics later & post All 3 sets have numbers. Also notice the lower center bolt on left side. Originals take a long bolt. Repops do not. Last edited by KiWinUS; 04-18-2020 at 10:41 AM. |
04-18-2020, 10:28 AM | #7 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Coral Springs FL
Posts: 11,068
|
Re: Headers
Opps, guess I was wrong. Thanks for the correction.
|
04-18-2020, 10:42 AM | #8 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Charlotte NC KiWi-L100 available here
Posts: 3,002
|
Re: Headers
Pics posted above
|
04-18-2020, 10:57 AM | #9 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Schooley's Mountain
Posts: 530
|
Re: Headers
Just an opinion here but I think that those numbers are Fenton numbers from the "original" Fenton Headers indicating they are for Ford.
|
04-18-2020, 11:03 AM | #10 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys
Posts: 10,453
|
Re: Headers
Those are "Ford" part numbers, not "Ford part numbers".
|
04-18-2020, 11:27 AM | #11 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: East Hartford, Ct
Posts: 5,898
|
Re: Headers
Seriously doubt that the 7101 number is a Ford number.
Ford group number 7101 is for transmission gears and components. If it were a Ford number it would be group 9430. The 7101 number is most likely a Fenton number. Also the 'FORD' marking would most likely be in Ford script.
__________________
DON'T RECALL DOING SOMETHING FOR MYSELF BASED ON SOMEONE ELSE'S LIKES OR DISLIKES Last edited by 51 MERC-CT; 04-18-2020 at 11:40 AM. |
04-18-2020, 03:41 PM | #12 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Masterton, New Zealand
Posts: 3,861
|
Re: Headers
C69A engine is a post war Canadian offering. Casting has real thick cylinder walls; a good candidate for big bore flatties...The deck has a slightly different layout coolant hole wise, than regular C59A's. Still takes center outlet heads. Crankshaft has double oil holes, similar to 8BA, but ran early style rods, notched to accept lock in shell bearings. These are now impossible to find, however, can be substituted for regular floaters, alternatively one can use 8BA rods and bearings on that crank. These engines ran one piece valve guide assemblies, mostly using valve rotator assemblies. Some 69's have hardened ex valve seat inserts.
__________________
Unfortunately, two half wits don't make a whole wit! |
04-18-2020, 04:20 PM | #13 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: now Kuna, Idaho
Posts: 3,792
|
Re: Headers
Quote:
I would say that those numbers are Fenton's numbers denoting the application for these headers. Thus indicating these are for a Ford, 7101 indicating which Ford (a flathead), and of course right and left. Not a real, 'official' Ford number. |
|
04-18-2020, 04:48 PM | #14 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Charlotte NC KiWi-L100 available here
Posts: 3,002
|
Re: Headers
Quote:
Cheers |
|
04-18-2020, 09:23 PM | #15 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: sydney australia
Posts: 1,049
|
Re: Headers
makes sense fenton did a lot of stuff and not just for fords saw some buick stuff a while back looked as though it would work ok
|
04-19-2020, 08:15 PM | #16 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 469
|
Re: Headers
I have a driver's side exh manifold that says sm-59 Los Angeles California on it that I was told came of a 1950 highway patrol car. I don't know how true the story is
|
04-19-2020, 08:38 PM | #17 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Reseda, Calif.
Posts: 2,190
|
Re: Headers
Thanks for posting these KiWi,,i learned some thing new.
|
04-19-2020, 09:01 PM | #18 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: charlottesville, Va.
Posts: 589
|
Re: Headers
I have two original sets of Fenton headers . Both sets have the ford part numbers. I would take the photos but they are on my cars . The numbers are the same as the photos above.
|
04-19-2020, 10:39 PM | #19 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: MN
Posts: 7,063
|
Re: Headers
I have two sets. One on the 38 with a repop and an old set of used chrome ones. I'll have to check for numbers now (thanks). The later repro ones (they are repoped today) have clearance issues. Having them milled on the exhaust bolt side to block an 1/8" usually clears the steering box. Maybe a bit small relief with a dremal on the outside by the box for more space. They are cast very thick so lot of material to work with.
|
|
|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|