The car is finally running good!

[Mitch//pa]

Where are u in florida? You should post ur general location on ur avatar for anyone that maybe near by

[Smooth_One]

Originally Posted by robgross1930

Another bit of info I would like to add is one can often tell a lot about the condition of an engine just by listening to the sound the starter makes as it turns the engine over. Yours has an even rhythm or regular repeated pattern of sound. That indicates fairly even compression from one cylinder to the next, which is a good sign. However, yours also sounds like the starter is spinning the engine over a little fast (just a little not much) in my opinion which can indicate lower compression in all cylinders, like a worn engine with a lot miles, as the engine has less compression and is easier to turn over. Plus the fact that you said the engine was warm adds to the accuracy of my opinion. Could still be a good runner though.

Thanks! One thing I did is put a new ground wire from the frame to engine block and after that it cranked way faster!

[Smooth_One]

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

Where are u in florida? You should post ur general location on ur avatar for anyone that maybe near by

I'm in Sarasota. Hour south of Tampa.

[Smooth_One]

Anyone know any clubs down this way?

[Mitch//pa]

Originally Posted by Smooth_One

I'm in Sarasota. Hour south of Tampa.

Damn i was born and raised there. Have family still there and visit all the time..
I know there are some from the tampa area on the barn but dont recall anyone from there..
Lived off of fruitville rd

[Smooth_One]

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Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

Rob thats great real world right on the money info u posted. A skip in the crank rhythm u sure dont want. A trained person can pretty much thoroughly evaluate a car by hearing driving and feeling without taking any tools out.

I did adjust the carb tonight by ear. Ran much better after!

[Smooth_One]

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

Damn i was born and raised there. Have family still there and visit all the time..
I know there are some from the tampa area on the barn but dont recall anyone from there..
Lived off of fruitville rd

Wow! Small world... I was also born and raised here and currently live off of Fruitville.

[Mitch//pa]

Originally Posted by Smooth_One

Wow! Small world... I was born and raised here and currently live off of Fruitville.

No shit. Ill send u another. pm

[Smooth_One]

This is the link to the show here in a few weeks.

http://www.sunshineregionaaca.org/devereaux-kaiser.html

[Synchro909]

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

Rob thats great real world right on the money info u posted. A skip in the crank rhythm u sure dont want. A trained person can pretty much thoroughly evaluate a car by hearing driving and feeling without taking any tools out.

Agree 100%, especially with these old cars. Listening to the whine of vintage machinery is part of the attraction of these cars IMO - I'd rather listen to that than a symphony orchestra.

[Smooth_One]

Originally Posted by forever4

So how did you get such a nice Canadian-built car in Florida?

My father in law bought it in Canada back in the late 50's from an old girlfriend and has had it in Michigan ever since.
It was sitting in his enclosed barn for over 30 years with flat tires til I saw it about 6 years ago then I had to buy a house with a garage so I had a place to put it when I brought it here to Florida.
So I've had it for almost 2 years now.

[Mitch//pa]

Do you have any pictures of the car that u can post?

[robgross1930]

Originally Posted by Smooth_One

Thanks! One thing I did is put a new ground wire from the frame to engine block and after that it cranked way faster!

You’re welcome but according to your comment I’m not quite sure that you understand. Even if you had not improved the ground with a new wire, there would still be an audible difference in the rhythm of the sound made by the starter if there was a significant problem with any of the cylinders. The only difference is the overall speed would be slower. As it is now, you have probably established the best ground possible but the overall speed is still slightly faster, in my opinion, than what it would be if the compression were improved as is evident with a Model A engine with less wear on the rings and cylinder walls.

[Mitch//pa]

You might want to go over the original ground connection at the frame... remove the bolt and clean the frame and cable / hardware... make sure the car has the right cables installed and not modern smaller copper batt wires... the model A as built with good connections does not need any extra grounds... most likely you are compensating for another deficiency...

[Smooth_One]

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

You might want to go over the original ground connection at the frame... remove the bolt and clean the frame and cable / hardware... make sure the car has the right cables installed and not modern smaller copper batt wires... the model A as built with good connections does not need any extra grounds... most likely you are compensating for another deficiency...

I am going down my list checking everything as I have time but I haven't gotten that far yet.
Someone suggested to add a hidden ground wire just to be on the safe side.

[Mitch//pa]

Originally Posted by Smooth_One

I am going down my list checking everything as I have time but I haven't gotten that far yet.
Someone suggested to add a hidden ground wire just to be on the safe side.

Many many do it,,,,, but it should crank the same as originally built... none of the cars i own or work on for others have that.
My point is make sure your basic system is right before you compensate

[robgross1930]

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

Many many do it,,,,, but it should crank the same as originally built... none of the cars i own or work on for others have that.
My point is make sure your basic system is right before you compensate

Nothing wrong with an extra wire if it makes him feel better in my opinion. The Model A as originally built came with engine pans that provided much of the ground. Most of the time they were removed and never put back.

[Mitch//pa]

Originally Posted by robgross1930

Nothing wrong with an extra wire if it makes him feel better in my opinion. The Model A as originally built came with engine pans that provided much of the ground. Most of the time they were removed and never put back.

I didnt say there was anything wrong with it
I was just stating a fact

[robgross1930]

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

I didnt say there was anything wrong with it
I was just stating a fact

I didn't say you did.
Maybe I should have said that I've seen many people run an extra ground wire for the last 40 years, and I have. The original set up with engine pans provides a shorter path back to the battery. Otherwise, the majority may have to travel back through the drivetrain to the rear end and up through the spring and on through the frame to get back to the ground cable.

[Mitch//pa]

Originally Posted by robgross1930

I didn't say you did.
Maybe I should have said that I've seen many people run an extra ground wire for the last 40 years, and I have. The original set up with engine pans provides a shorter path back to the battery. Otherwise, the majority may have to travel back through the drivetrain to the rear end and up through the spring and on through the frame to get back to the ground cable.

And then we have the ground path from the fuel line