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Smooth_One 12-27-2016 07:07 PM
The car is finally running good!
 

Best she's ever run! Got the timing set just about perfect as far as I can tell and it's idling nice.

Smooth_One 12-27-2016 07:14 PM
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Made this today and it did the trick!

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...pswsaue438.jpg

Smooth_One 12-27-2016 07:21 PM
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Short clip of it running.

https://youtu.be/zyyqS-yxxnE

Smooth_One 12-27-2016 07:25 PM
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Still puffing out a bit of blue smoke. I set the fuel mixture on the Tillotson about where it needs to be.
Maybe it just needs to run a while to burn off some of the 30+ year oil in the cylinders?

zzlegend 12-27-2016 07:39 PM
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Made one of those home made test lights just like that years ago, and still use it some times. Glad you got it running fine.

Smooth_One 12-27-2016 07:43 PM
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Thanks bud! First time soldering something so I was pretty proud of myself after.

robgross1930 12-27-2016 07:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smooth_One (Post 1405461)
Best she's ever run! Got the timing set just about perfect as far as I can tell and it's idling nice.
Well good.

Who told you to pull the spark lever down and advance the timing a little when you first cranked it up? That will work fine if you don't go too far but it's not a good habit. The Model A is supposed to be fully retarded with the spark lever all the way up when cranking.

Smooth_One 12-27-2016 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by robgross1930 (Post 1405483)
Well good.

Who told you to pull the spark lever down and advance the timing a little when you first cranked it up? That will work fine if you don't go too far but it's not a good habit. The Model A is supposed to be fully retarded with the spark lever all the way up when cranking.
It was warm already. It had been running for 10 mins or so when I shut of off and re-cranked it.

jm29henry 12-27-2016 07:52 PM
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Contradiction alway feel to fix something on your own

Mitch//pa 12-27-2016 07:53 PM
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A little reference

http://www.motormayhem.net/wp-upload...ion-Manual.pdf

Smooth_One 12-27-2016 07:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robgross1930 (Post 1405483)
Well good.

Who told you to pull the spark lever down and advance the timing a little when you first cranked it up? That will work fine if you don't go too far but it's not a good habit. The Model A is supposed to be fully retarded with the spark lever all the way up when cranking.
Where do you run yours?

robgross1930 12-27-2016 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Smooth_One (Post 1405489)
Where do you run yours?
I push the lever all the way up when cranking as Ford intended. At that position the number 1 cylinder will receive the spark at Top Dead Center on the compression stroke and the other cylinders will follow accordingly if the timing has been set correctly. If you pull the lever down and advance the timing too much, the engine will labor to crank and if you advance the timing too far, the engine will kick back and bend the starter shaft.

Smooth_One 12-27-2016 08:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robgross1930 (Post 1405496)
I push the lever all the way up when cranking as Ford intended. At that position the number 1 cylinder will receive the spark at Top Dead Center on the compression stroke and the other cylinders will follow accordingly if the timing has been set correctly. If you pull the lever down and advance the timing too much, the engine will labor to crank and if you advance the timing too far, the engine will kick back and bend the starter shaft.
Ok thanks! I am still learning and I'm sure I'll be learning from you guys for years to come.
I do ALWAYS start it in the full retard position.

robgross1930 12-27-2016 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Smooth_One (Post 1405504)
I do ALWAYS start it in the full retard position.
Didn't look like it in your short video. You pulled the lever down, some. That's why I made a comment about the proper position of the lever for starting.

Smooth_One 12-27-2016 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitch//pa (Post 1405487)
Very cool! Love to find an original print.

Mitch//pa 12-27-2016 08:59 PM
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Do you know what a PM is??? I sent you a private message

Brentwood Bob 12-27-2016 09:26 PM
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I would hope that you have other model a owners nearby you can learn from.
As you learn from them you will be able to improve the way your motor runs.
I think the motor can be more responsive than I saw from the youtube.
At the very least now you can put some local miles on the car and enjoy driving it.

robgross1930 12-27-2016 10:05 PM
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Another bit of info I would like to add is one can often tell a lot about the condition of an engine just by listening to the sound the starter makes as it turns the engine over. Yours has an even rhythm or regular repeated pattern of sound. That indicates fairly even compression from one cylinder to the next, which is a good sign. However, yours also sounds like the starter is spinning the engine over a little fast (just a little not much) in my opinion which can indicate lower compression in all cylinders, like a worn engine with a lot miles, as the engine has less compression and is easier to turn over. Plus the fact that you said the engine was warm adds to the accuracy of my opinion. Could still be a good runner though.

Smooth_One 12-27-2016 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tbirdtbird (Post 1405513)
GOod work!!!

re-read #12.
Spark lever always fully UP to start, hot or cold

else can bend starter shaft.

make it a practice, when you shut off the car, push both levers all the way up. It will become habit

choke not needed at all when warm/hot
That I do push both levers all the way up and turn the gas off then shut off the ignition.

Smooth_One 12-27-2016 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Brentwood Bob (Post 1405525)
I would hope that you have other model a owners nearby you can learn from.
As you learn from them you will be able to improve the way your motor runs.
I think the motor can be more responsive than I saw from the youtube.
At the very least now you can put some local miles on the car and enjoy driving it.
I'm still trying to find someone in my area that has an A.
Big car show coming up in my town in a few weeks and the Model A club attends usually. Quite a bit of brass cars as well.


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