New starter

[Byron Warwick]

I have received my new starter, from CGFord parts. It is the one with a modern “Bendix” gear to connect to the flywheel, and it is some larger.
It includes a small note about having to grind a bit off the casting on the lower side, after removing the starter plate. Has anyone done this? Can you give me some more details. My truck is in a storage place with no power and dirt floors.
Cheers, Byron.

[19Fordy]

Byron, Can you post a photo of thzt starter you bought?

[Byron Warwick]

I forgot to mention that I have a 1953, 8BA engine, actually 1954 Canadian Mercury, (Meteor).

Byron.

[Byron Warwick]

I could not seend the photo. It is part number 3103-STN, from cgfordparts.com. It has a modern ring gear assembly.Byron

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by Byron Warwick

I could not seend the photo. It is part number 3103-STN, from cgfordparts.com. It has a modern ring gear assembly.Byron

[51504bat]

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Years ago I installed a starter with the new Bendix in an 8ba in a big truck I had. It was a PITA but I was able to install it without doing the grinding as indicated in the note that came with the starter. Based on that when I ordered a new 12 volt starter for the 8ba in my '39 p/u from Joe's I had him swap out the new style Bendix for an original style one. Problem solved.

[Seth Swoboda]

I've never liked or had any luck with those new style starter bendix. I have a decent supply of old starters so I just pull an original off one of my spares and use it.

[Kube]

Originally Posted by Seth Swoboda

I've never liked or had any luck with those new style starter bendix. I have a decent supply of old starters so I just pull an original off one of my spares and use it.

Perfect advice...

[Byron Warwick]

I have just returned from a local auto-electric shop, and they swapped out the Bendix set-up from my old starter to the new one. I will have it installed tomorrow and I am confident it will all go well. I have a new helper, who can do the jobs, like this one, that are a challenge to an Old Fart like me. He just gets down on the ground, and starts twisting wrenches, and it’s done in no time. That will get him a couple of bottles of my homemade wine, plus a gratuity as well.
Many thanks to all who have helped me on this project.
It sucks getting old, but that is where I am now.
Cheers, Byron.

[sidevalve8ba]

It may suck getting old, but it beats the alternative!

[fortyonerag]

I put one in my 41 after going 12V and breaking a Bendix (I know, I know). I read someplace that the 'new style' are supposed to not break. Took some finagling to fit in but worked OK (I use past tense as I replaced the motor).


The 'new style' Bendix drive had a very different engagement sound as I recall.

[flathead4rd]

I installed one with the new style Bendix on my 50. Had to do the grinding thing on the block to get it to fit. I used a Dremel with a grinding disc. You don't have to grind a lot but it takes patience and trial and error. PITA in my opinion. Anyway I got it in (tight fit) and seemed to work OK. I'm running 12 volts on all my 50's circuits. Long story short, went to start my car the other day and the starter locked up against the fly wheel. Here is where being old (86) comes in handy. Turn off key. Put car in gear (i chose third) and rock car back and forth. You will hear a loud noise when the Bendix breaks loose of the flywheel. Get back in and car starts right up. So far so good. If this continues to be a problem I will install the original starter drive on the new starter.

[flathead4rd]

Well it happened again. Third time so spent three hours trying to get starter out. Going to put the old style starter drive on the shaft but cannot figure out how to removed the new style drive from the shaft. No bolts and if I do get it off will I find bolt holes in the shaft under the new starter drive?

[Karl Wolf]

To remove the drive from the shaft-
The moving part of the drive has to be retracted, so do not spin it out.
Push the end of the drive that's away from the body of the starter toward the body of the starter to expose the pin that holds the drive to the shaft. (Could be about 1/4")
Drive it out the side, leave it in the drive just a bit- makes it easier to reinstall.

Karl

[glennpm]

Originally Posted by Karl Wolf

To remove the drive from the shaft-
The moving part of the drive has to be retracted, so do not spin it out.
Push the end of the drive that's away from the body of the starter toward the body of the starter to expose the pin that holds the drive to the shaft. (Could be about 1/4")
Drive it out the side, leave it in the drive just a bit- makes it easier to reinstall.

Karl

And some photos

[flathead4rd]

Great post. I never would have figured it out otherwise.