Wher are all these N O S Hoses coming from?

[Jim Mason]

What I do is sane, just and the only way to do anything. What you do is insane, not justifiable and wrong. fwiw,jm

[Model A Man]

I understand why someone would want nos parts and would want to own/built a fine points car. I know for me I would not be able to afford to build a fine points car but I would love to find some nos parts. I remember a couple of years ago there was a high points car at the OC pankcake breakfast and it was the first time I saw one in person. I think my jaw dropped. this car gave me a warm fuzzy feeling inside and made me understand why some have such drive to build a high points. I tip my hat to them and say thank you

[Steve Plucker]

Originally Posted by Roadster62

Are there more or less than 50 "Fine Point" restorations underway at this time, and how long has the NOS parts quest been underway? Will the owners live long enough to see the finished project?

I don't think Roadster62 is "throwing stones" at anyone on this question 31Tudor and Pickupman.

He asked legitimat questions!

"Are there more or less than 50 "Fine Point" restorations underway"? Who knows for sure but maybe;

"How long has the NOS parts quest been underway"? Many, many years. When parts become "obsolete" as stated on some Ford Part Releases...in my opinion those left over parts are New Old Stock (NOS);

"Will the owners live long enough to see the finished project"? Hopefully all will!

As far as collecting and "hoarding" stuff...why not? I have several collections of "stuff" that I personally enjoy looking at once in a while such as my Orange Crush items, old steel beer cans...so "Let'er Buck" boys..."Let'er Buck"!

Pluck

[oliverguy]

I didn't mean to upset anybody about the hording comment. Maybe it's because my dad is a horder & it drives me nuts. I can appreciate the fine point cars, for the skill it took to get them that way I do feel that because of all the hording, it drives the prices of everything up. The younger people are priced out of the good parts and cars, and possibly could be the downfall to the hobby. It's supply and demand.

It is still easier to find a NOS part for a model A than say a studebaker of the same vintage.

[Jerry Parr WI]

I think Bret has described it very well. Different strokes for different people. I suspect most of our cars fall some where in mid scale between the clunker and the show car. I regard my cars as drivers not show cars but I am always looking to replace anything that's not already with a serviceable original part. The quest to learn to identify original parts is a hobby by itself. A visit to Marco or Vince's sites will introduce you to the complexities. I'm happy to let the show car people have the NOS. I'm looking for with the original that shows a little use. I love a part that fits without needing hours of shop time.

[d.j. moordigian]

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Pete,

OK, I wish I knew,...I bid what money I had. Am I frustrated,...yes. Would I like
to build a Fine Point car,...yes. Is it going to happen,...not unless I hit the Lottery.
Am I going to lay down,...no way.

[peters180a/170b]

There is always a reason why i start a thread. I had A+L's /Bratton's hoses on my car. They are VERY GOOD but not orginial. I did have a chance to Borrow a set on orginial hoses for the French Lick but that is not me. Every part on my car is MY cars parts. If i can find a orginial and buy it or make it,thats good but then i do not borrow it and then i go without and use the BEST repro part out there. ! as i did with the hoses.Here is my reason .I did not lose that much of a point just a % worth. [at this meet] but after speaking to a few judges there are NO standard % deduction . All depends on the repro part and the judge. So the next time the car goes to a meet the door is open to any % by the call of that judge. You can lose 9% or 8% or even as low as 1% .And then it adds up at the end.Now i scored 482 and happy with that .I corrected the 2 wheels, 2 points- , and i lost 2-1/2 points on start [my car did not start with the throttle rod all the way to the top....owners manual said when to start move the throttle lever down 3 notches]and when i did move the throttle 3 notches then it started. i found 2 more orginial hub caps that match better then the 2 out of 5 orginial correct mid 1930's that are on there now.But i was told don't expect a higher number in my score because they might or might notl find something else the second trip around. l.o.l. The madness of Fine point cars.

[LukeDahlinger]

I'd love to do a fine point Model A, but at my age it's prudent to wait it out and build one when I get in my 50s or 60s.

You want to talk about anal judges- build a Corvette for NCRS Top Flight or Bloomington Gold judging. You think Model A fine point is tough, it's about double the intensity for NCRS judging. I've assisted in the build of 3 Top Flights and one Bloomington Gold car and it was a great learning experience.

As for me I'll stick with Model A's and Panheads.

[peters180a/170b]

First Luke . it was the 55,56 and 57 Chevy cars... Then came the 54,55,56 Thunderbirds.. that was a ruff group when i judged. I just about walked off the field when judging the corvette ...65,66,67... You are right those people are nuts! Talk about the wrong chrome finish on a 67 radio dial ..To me chrome is chrome.Not to those boys...

[LukeDahlinger]

Peter, can I trade you a '52 Corvette for a '54 Thunderbird?

You do make a good point tho!

[peters180a/170b]

Ok Ok , The 1955 Thunderbird was built before Sept 8, 1954 . Michigan State Fair. was the first time on exhibit.. I just looked again in Lorin Sorensen book #49 signed by him.. There were 53 vette???? I have a 1969 ,427 drag pack corvette... I look for rice burners on Sundays....

[LukeDahlinger]

Originally Posted by peters180a/170b

Ok Ok , The 1955 Thunderbird was built before Sept 8, 1954 . Michigan State Fair. was the first time on exhibit.. I just looked again in Lorin Sorensen book #49 signed by him.. There were 53 vette???? I have a 1969 ,427 drag pack corvette... I look for rice burners on Sundays....

Yep they made Vettes in '53. A friend of mine has 2 and a friend of his has 7

I had a rough as a cob '66 427 tri-power coupe, but ended up trading it for something better.

We better stop this non Model A talk! The forum police will be after us....LOL

[Steve Plucker]

I thought it was kind of interesting!

Pluck

[5window]

Originally Posted by peters180a/170b

Ok Ok , The 1955 Thunderbird was built before Sept 8, 1954 . Michigan State Fair. was the first time on exhibit.. I just looked again in Lorin Sorensen book #49 signed by him.. There were 53 vette???? I have a 1969 ,427 drag pack corvette... I look for rice burners on Sundays....

Tuners aren't my style, but there are some pretty hefty multi turbo, NOS burning 4 cylinder cars out there making crazy HP/cubic cm. You have got to admire the ingenuity and craftsmanship. I like A's, but I just like cars.

['29wagon]

[QUOTE=Hotrodster; I can almost guarantee you that there aren't any orginal Something's fishy here.[/QUOTE]

isn't it true that it's glycerin that is baked out of drying rubber .

isn't it also true that m.e.k. can soften that dryness .

and from my experience that "skin so soft" can assist in restoring it to an original luster, set aside the fact it's deteriorated . i'm no amway salesman .

as when anthony hopkins character in the worlds fastest indian applies shoe polish before attempting to run at bonneville. looks nice.

yea, something fishy there.

[5window]

True,but MEK can also turn your liver in to 100 year old rubber pretty fast,too.

[FL&WVMIKE]

Timothy Kelly .......................
Those odd lengths could be left overs from stock hoses, from where the mechanic, just cut whatever length he needed.
MIKE

[Bick in New Zealand]

You could be right. I had the opportunity a number of years back to purchase a 3 foot length of hosing, and turned it down because I thought it was too expensive at $150. Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing.

[silvertop]

Fordgarage,
Let me first say that there is no way that I would ever pony-up $300-$400 for a 9" piece of 83 year old dry rotted hose, but in the event that I ever lost my sanity and did, I would definitely want it in the box. As with anything that is collectable, the box matters.

[msmaron]

Originally Posted by silvertop

Fordgarage,
Let me first say that there is no way that I would ever pony-up $300-$400 for a 9" piece of 83 year old dry rotted hose, but in the event that I ever lost my sanity and did, I would definitely want it in the box. As with anything that is collectable, the box matters.

If you were a person who did fine point cars, and we're going for a certain level you would highly consider it as many of us do on the site and feed. Also where did the auction say that it was dry rotted, and remember the box is useless when it is on the car. I would not hesitate to do the opposite of your choice and I have and will continue.