Trouble finding an air filter

[Herman Munster]

Here's a few phots of the air cleaner and the inside measurement that shows that the filter needs to be over 3" tall.It's without a doubt a Ford produced air cleaner as it even has indentations to clear the usual bell crank and coil.

[KULTULZ]

Originally Posted by Herman Munster

Here's a few phots of the air cleaner and the inside measurement that shows that the filter needs to be over 3" tall.

It's without a doubt a Ford produced air cleaner as it even has indentations to clear the usual bell crank and coil.

...ciphering...

Something doesn't ring with the rear shot.

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Can you measure the assembly as it lays on a flat surface as to OD and HGT?

You said previously you had a FORD C3VY 9601-A element equivalent and it did not fully reach the bottom support?

You also said the seller repainted the cleaner? Do you see any signs of a previous color, black, blue, white or gold?

[KULTULZ]

OK, I think I have found it. It was not in the 60/64 MPC (must have gone obsolete and was deleted from FINAL ISSUE).

Went back again to the 1967 READY REFERENCE CATALOG and it was listed there (I think). It only gave two dimensions, 9.74" OD and 3.13" H. It is listed only for 64 FORD and MERC.

Service PN C4AZ 9601-A. No reference found on GOOGLE. This must have been a very limited production run. Maybe explains why the guy got rid of it.

I think I read oldmic saying he had a period OSI Catalog. Maybe he can chase it and get an earlier PN.

I will keep looking.

[Oldmics]

Green Ford Sales

http://www.greensalescompany.com/

shows that they have 6 of the C4AZ 9601-A in stock.

Have to call them for pricing

The OSI information that I have is from 1955 to 1961.

The 1964 MCR book crosses the service number (C4AZ 9601-A) to the actual part of C4AF9601B

Oldmics

[KULTULZ]

Originally Posted by Oldmics

Green Ford Sales

http://www.greensalescompany.com/

shows that they have 6 of the C4AZ 9601-A in stock.

Have to call them for pricing

Oldmics

And have them throw a tape on it before buying...

So it is a CROSS REFERENCE CATALOG you have?

An OSI (Obsolete-Supersede-Interchange) Catalog will give SERVICE PN upgrades once they are out of the PRICE BOOK.

Nice to have either or both.

THANX Oldmics ...

[Oldmics]

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Nothing like running a thread compleatly off its tracks

Kultulz asks

"So it is a CROSS REFERENCE CATALOG you have?"

I have MCR (Master Cross Reference) books from the first one in Nov of 1953 , then 1954,1956,1957, 1959. Those were my original primary focus.

Also acquired the MCR books from Oct 61,Oct 63,April 64,April 66, Oct 67, Oct 70 and Oct 71.

The OSI books that I have are Ford- Jan 55 , Merc /Lincoln Nov 56 , Ford July 57 , Ford 60 and Ford - June 61.

Kultulz says

"Nice to have either or both."

Yes,it is

I find myself using the MCR books more than anything else.

There"s also the usual array of 55,56,57 (year of) Ford parts and shop manuals.

Mercury and Edsel manuals and T.S.B.s along with some Ford T Bird proprietary documentation a bunch of price sheet books and much more.

I must say that I have a pretty reference decent library but I am always seeking more books.

I"m sure you know that year specific information is routinely deleted from the Master Parts Catologues such as the 49-59 "Blue Bible".

That missing information is what started my search for the real parts information years ago.

Oldmics

[KULTULZ]

Originally Posted by Oldmics

Nothing like running a thread compleatly off its tracks

And there is nothing like learning and look at how much info is contained within this thread. Sorry you feel that way.

I"m sure you know that year specific information is routinely deleted from the Master Parts Catologues such as the 49-59 "Blue Bible".

That missing information is what started my search for the real parts information years ago.

Oldmics

It is not actually missing. Up until the CDP, the MPC (paper or micrfiche) was updated quarterly. You will see publication date(s) on the binded books (49/59) for example) themselves and on loose leaf pages (65/72 for example) The key is to collect as wide a dates range of the MPC that you can.

Same with SERVICE MANUALS.

Any deleted info is listed in the OSI (and you need several ranges of years there also). Once deleted from the OSI, it was gone.

The only way I finally found the ACL element was not in the MPC (60/64 FINAL ISSUE) but a 1967 READY REFERENCE CATALOG. Without that or the period correct MPC, it most likely would have not been found.

[KULTULZ]

Originally Posted by KULTULZ

OK, I think I have found it. It was not in the 60/64 MPC (must have gone obsolete and was deleted from FINAL ISSUE).

Went back again to the 1967 READY REFERENCE CATALOG and it was listed there (I think). It only gave two dimensions, 9.74" OD and 3.13" H. It is listed only for 64 FORD and MERC.

Service PN C4AZ 9601-A. No reference found on GOOGLE. This must have been a very limited production run. Maybe explains why the guy got rid of it.

I think I read oldmic saying he had a period OSI Catalog. Maybe he can chase it and get an earlier PN.

I will keep looking.

Originally Posted by Oldmics

Green Ford Sales

http://www.greensalescompany.com/

shows that they have 6 of the C4AZ 9601-A in stock.

Have to call them for pricing

The OSI information that I have is from 1955 to 1961.

The 1964 MCR book crosses the service number (C4AZ 9601-A) to the actual part of C4AF9601B

Oldmics

OK... The ACL you have seems to be 1964 specific (a few exceptions). Have found (THANX Bill aka Number Dummy @ FTE Forums) C4AZ 9601-A was R/B C3AZ 9601-B FA-6), which has the following measurements -

9.78" OD - 7.28" ID - 2.53" H

So Herman, you may be asking yourself why I am rattling your cage and the thing is too short.

I think I may have the answer... STAY TUNED!