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Herman Munster 12-06-2017 10:02 PM

Trouble finding an air filter
 

I bought this air cleaner so I could use it on my 56 Fairlane after changing the manifold and carb. The air cleaner is supposedly from a late 50's or very earl 60's Ford product. It fits the Autolite 4100 carb perfectly. The problem is I can't find a filter for it. The filter I think I need should probably be:
Top - 10.39" O.D., 7.28" I.D
Bottom - 9.78" O.D, 7.28" I.D
possibly 3.22" tall.

I'm stumped. It's a Ford product. It shouldn't be that hard to find.
No catalog shows a filter that will fit. The closest one I found is from a Desoto. It fits but not perfectly.
I think the filter I need might be an AC A82C filter but I haven't found the dimensions for it.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...1&d=1512338858

miker98038 12-06-2017 11:10 PM

Re: Trouble finding an air filter
 

Not sure this helps, and I wouldn’t pay this for NOS stuff that decomposes.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-NOS...-/351677823294

Maybe an Edsel site has a replacement/solution that works.

Hot Rod Reverend 12-06-2017 11:21 PM

Re: Trouble finding an air filter
 

Yours looks very similar to mine...if you check my blog thread you can see quite a few photos. Want me to check my filter number?

KULTULZ 12-07-2017 04:02 AM

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If the E-Bay info is correct, (and I do not find the PN on GOOGLE), A82C may be discontinued.

AC does have a current PN, A2882C for the period application. It gives no sizes.

Maybe contact AC?

https://www.acdelco.com/contact-us.html

scrapiron 12-07-2017 07:53 AM

Re: Trouble finding an air filter
 

Get a WIX paper catalog,, listings by size

Herman Munster 12-07-2017 09:36 PM

Re: Trouble finding an air filter
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hot Rod Reverend (Post 1562160)
Yours looks very similar to mine...if you check my blog thread you can see quite a few photos. Want me to check my filter number?

I think I asked you some time ago when your engine was still on a stand or was just installed. You had mentioned the height and it was shorter than mine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KULTULZ (Post 1562206)
If the E-Bay info is correct, (and I do not find the PN on GOOGLE), A82C may be discontinued.

AC does have a current PN, A2882C for the period application. It gives no sizes.

Maybe contact AC?

https://www.acdelco.com/contact-us.html

I'll check with that new number.

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Originally Posted by scrapiron (Post 1562230)
Get a WIX paper catalog,, listings by size

I think that's how I found my Desoto filter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by miker98038 (Post 1562155)
Not sure this helps, and I wouldn’t pay this for NOS stuff that decomposes.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-NOS...-/351677823294

Maybe an Edsel site has a replacement/solution that works.

I saw that. I wouldn't pay any kind of money for something that old that will end up as dust in my carb.
That's one of the listings where I found the part number.

Thanks everyone.

Oldmics 12-07-2017 09:44 PM

Re: Trouble finding an air filter
 

Post up some pictures of that air filter from all angles along with the dimensions.

I have a 58 retractable currently in the shop and I believe its the same air cleaner.

Its a 332 engine. It uses a Purolater A40013 element.

The Purolator specs are below and are close to what you are asking for.

https://aftermarketfiltrationexperts...ternative-qty2

Perhaps its the same ?????

Oldmics

Herman Munster 12-07-2017 09:53 PM

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I'll have to measure the filter housing when I get a chance.

Ford Freak 12-07-2017 10:58 PM

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Try Concours Ford Parts .

Oldmics 12-07-2017 11:30 PM

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Some shots of the air filter that I believe is the same as yours.

If you notice the lid is flush with the Purolotor element.

I believe your asking for that 3" height is a bit much as your lid sits a bit high.

I think the A40013 filter I am suggesting is correct. :)

Oldmics 12-07-2017 11:33 PM

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More Pics

miker98038 12-07-2017 11:48 PM

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Oldmics is probably on the right track. If not, I sent a pm. I’ve done this on similar filters. Not concours correct.

KULTULZ 12-08-2017 12:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldmics (Post 1562661)

Post up some pictures of that air filter from all angles along with the dimensions.

I have a 58 retractable currently in the shop and I believe its the same air cleaner.

Its a 332 engine. It uses a Purolater A40013 element.

The Purolator specs are below and are close to what you are asking for.

https://aftermarketfiltrationexperts...ternative-qty2

Perhaps its the same ?????

Oldmics

The PUROLATOR Filter A40013 crosses to the AC A2882C and FORD C3VY 9601-A.

http://www.airfilter-crossreference....ROLATOR/A40013

I tried earlier with the WIX dimensions catalog and found nothing with the height needed being listed. Maybe re-measure height?

KULTULZ 12-08-2017 01:50 AM

Re: Trouble finding an air filter
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herman Munster (Post 1562125)

I bought this air cleaner so I could use it on my 56 Fairlane after changing the manifold and carb. The air cleaner is supposedly from a late 50's or very earl 60's Ford product. It fits the Autolite 4100 carb perfectly. The problem is I can't find a filter for it.

The filter I think I need should probably be:

Top - 10.39" O.D., 7.28" I.D
Bottom - 9.78" O.D, 7.28" I.D
possibly 3.22" tall.

I'm stumped. It's a Ford product. It shouldn't be that hard to find.

No catalog shows a filter that will fit. The closest one I found is from a Desoto. It fits but not perfectly.

I think the filter I need might be an AC A82C filter but I haven't found the dimensions for it.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...1&d=1512338858

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldmics (Post 1562702)

Some shots of the air filter that I believe is the same as yours.

If you notice the lid is flush with the Purolotor element.

I believe your asking for that 3" height is a bit much as your lid sits a bit high.

I think the A40013 filter I am suggesting is correct. :)

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...4&d=1512707497

Yeah, I think you are correct also. I could find no referece to an element that tall.

Continued From Previous Thread- https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...64#post1562664

Herman Munster 12-09-2017 12:03 AM

Re: Trouble finding an air filter
 

I think I measured from the top of the recess of the air cleaner body down to the bottom inside and got nearly 3.25 inches.
I had actually bought the listed filter from NAPA back when I got the air cleaner and it was nearly an inch short. It was just hanging from the top rim with a sizable gap underneath.

Herman Munster 12-09-2017 08:23 PM

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Here's a few phots of the air cleaner and the inside measurement that shows that the filter needs to be over 3" tall.It's without a doubt a Ford produced air cleaner as it even has indentations to clear the usual bell crank and coil.

KULTULZ 12-09-2017 08:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Herman Munster (Post 1563602)

Here's a few phots of the air cleaner and the inside measurement that shows that the filter needs to be over 3" tall.

It's without a doubt a Ford produced air cleaner as it even has indentations to clear the usual bell crank and coil.

...ciphering...

Something doesn't ring with the rear shot.

EDIT-

... :confused: ...

Can you measure the assembly as it lays on a flat surface as to OD and HGT?

You said previously you had a FORD C3VY 9601-A element equivalent and it did not fully reach the bottom support?

You also said the seller repainted the cleaner? Do you see any signs of a previous color, black, blue, white or gold?

KULTULZ 12-10-2017 10:42 AM

Re: Trouble finding an air filter
 

OK, I think I have found it. It was not in the 60/64 MPC (must have gone obsolete and was deleted from FINAL ISSUE).

Went back again to the 1967 READY REFERENCE CATALOG and it was listed there (I think). It only gave two dimensions, 9.74" OD and 3.13" H. It is listed only for 64 FORD and MERC.

Service PN C4AZ 9601-A. No reference found on GOOGLE. This must have been a very limited production run. Maybe explains why the guy got rid of it.

I think I read oldmic saying he had a period OSI Catalog. Maybe he can chase it and get an earlier PN.

I will keep looking.

Oldmics 12-10-2017 01:18 PM

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Green Ford Sales

http://www.greensalescompany.com/

shows that they have 6 of the C4AZ 9601-A in stock.

Have to call them for pricing

The OSI information that I have is from 1955 to 1961.

The 1964 MCR book crosses the service number (C4AZ 9601-A) to the actual part of C4AF9601B

Oldmics

KULTULZ 12-10-2017 02:10 PM

Re: Trouble finding an air filter
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldmics (Post 1563999)

Green Ford Sales

http://www.greensalescompany.com/

shows that they have 6 of the C4AZ 9601-A in stock.

Have to call them for pricing

Oldmics

And have them throw a tape on it before buying...

So it is a CROSS REFERENCE CATALOG you have?

An OSI (Obsolete-Supersede-Interchange) Catalog will give SERVICE PN upgrades once they are out of the PRICE BOOK.

Nice to have either or both.

THANX Oldmics ... ;)


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