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Old 05-31-2025, 08:27 AM   #1
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Default IDing 40s steels. 4" or 4-1/2" wide? Easy how to.

Here's an easy way to tell if your 40s steel is a 4" or 4-1/2".

If you lay a straight edge across the centre of the wheel and up against the outer rim, On the 4" wheel the end will sit just outside the rim. On the 4-1/2" wheel the end will sit just inside the edge of the rim.

4" wheel:




4-1/2" wheel:


A handy little tip especially when the tyres are still on!
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Old 05-31-2025, 11:41 AM   #2
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Old 05-31-2025, 02:15 PM   #3
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Leave it to Mart to come up with easy shortcuts. Good find!
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Old 05-31-2025, 03:42 PM   #4
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I just carry a small tape measure on my key ring. Mart's idea is good but not all wheels have the same back spacing.
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Old 05-31-2025, 04:54 PM   #5
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Default Re: IDing 40s steels. 4" or 4-1/2" wide? Easy how to.

Now we just need a " magic" eye ball to see through the tires to inspect the beads while at the bone yard!
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Default Re: IDing 40s steels. 4" or 4-1/2" wide? Easy how to.

Mart, I like the way you figure things out. Your next assignment is to make a small, portable gauge to tell if a swapmeet crank is 3 3/4" or 4" stroke. I've found exceptions to the clean out hole sizing ID.
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Mart, I like the way you figure things out. Your next assignment is to make a small, portable gauge to tell if a swapmeet crank is 3 3/4" or 4" stroke. I've found exceptions to the clean out hole sizing ID.
I measure across the large counter weight.
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Default Re: IDing 40s steels. 4" or 4-1/2" wide? Easy how to.

It seems like any 16" rim would measure the same distance. That makes it look like there are two different diameter rims. I wouldn't want to put a 16" tire on a 15-inch rim.
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It seems like any 16" rim would measure the same distance. That makes it look like there are two different diameter rims. I wouldn't want to put a 16" tire on a 15-inch rim.
You're missing the point.

I'm not measuring any diameters. I'm showing the relative alignments of the rims against the centres. The 4-1/2" wheel is 1/2" wider, so sticks out 1/4" more than the 4". You can see the difference using a straight edge.
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