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Mart 05-31-2025 08:27 AM

IDing 40s steels. 4" or 4-1/2" wide? Easy how to.
 

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Here's an easy way to tell if your 40s steel is a 4" or 4-1/2".

If you lay a straight edge across the centre of the wheel and up against the outer rim, On the 4" wheel the end will sit just outside the rim. On the 4-1/2" wheel the end will sit just inside the edge of the rim.

4" wheel:


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...1&d=1748698051

4-1/2" wheel:
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...2&d=1748698051

A handy little tip especially when the tyres are still on!
Mart.

alchemy 05-31-2025 11:41 AM

Re: IDing 40s steels. 4" or 4-1/2" wide? Easy how to.
 

Thanks

ford38v8 05-31-2025 02:15 PM

Re: IDing 40s steels. 4" or 4-1/2" wide? Easy how to.
 

Leave it to Mart to come up with easy shortcuts. Good find!

TJ 05-31-2025 03:42 PM

Re: IDing 40s steels. 4" or 4-1/2" wide? Easy how to.
 

I just carry a small tape measure on my key ring. Mart's idea is good but not all wheels have the same back spacing.

big deuce 05-31-2025 04:54 PM

Re: IDing 40s steels. 4" or 4-1/2" wide? Easy how to.
 

Now we just need a " magic" eye ball to see through the tires to inspect the beads while at the bone yard!

Death Row Dave 06-06-2025 11:25 PM

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Thanks my friend

GB SISSON 06-07-2025 09:56 AM

Re: IDing 40s steels. 4" or 4-1/2" wide? Easy how to.
 

Mart, I like the way you figure things out. Your next assignment is to make a small, portable gauge to tell if a swapmeet crank is 3 3/4" or 4" stroke. I've found exceptions to the clean out hole sizing ID.

Ken/Alabama 06-07-2025 11:28 AM

Re: IDing 40s steels. 4" or 4-1/2" wide? Easy how to.
 

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Originally Posted by GB SISSON (Post 2393559)
Mart, I like the way you figure things out. Your next assignment is to make a small, portable gauge to tell if a swapmeet crank is 3 3/4" or 4" stroke. I've found exceptions to the clean out hole sizing ID.

I measure across the large counter weight.

Flathead Fever 06-07-2025 01:49 PM

Re: IDing 40s steels. 4" or 4-1/2" wide? Easy how to.
 

It seems like any 16" rim would measure the same distance. That makes it look like there are two different diameter rims. I wouldn't want to put a 16" tire on a 15-inch rim.

Mart 06-07-2025 04:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Flathead Fever (Post 2393589)
It seems like any 16" rim would measure the same distance. That makes it look like there are two different diameter rims. I wouldn't want to put a 16" tire on a 15-inch rim.

You're missing the point.

I'm not measuring any diameters. I'm showing the relative alignments of the rims against the centres. The 4-1/2" wheel is 1/2" wider, so sticks out 1/4" more than the 4". You can see the difference using a straight edge.


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