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Old 02-13-2013, 01:58 PM   #1
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getting ready to paint the cab and box.
Using concept w/med reducer. would/did you paint the interior first then mask? or all at once w no overspray?
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Old 02-13-2013, 02:16 PM   #2
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Define "med reducer"? Are you saying DT860 DT870 or DT885, --and what temps are the air coming across the sheetmetal? Also, what kind of gun and what is your physical strength like? It can be painted all at once with a slower thinner however your 'stamina' needs to be there (tired hands, arms, & brain cause runs!!). No harm in spraying in stages if that is what it takes to get a slick finish.
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Old 02-13-2013, 02:25 PM   #3
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Old 02-13-2013, 02:51 PM   #4
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Brent I thought that the gas tank was installed before painting ???????

Is that a black sealer sprayed on the bottom ????

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Old 02-13-2013, 03:05 PM   #5
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Originally the gas tank WAS installed prior to painting. So were the doors however we don't do it that way!

The bottom is Rock Moss Green too (in satin finish). The lights inside a spray booth can be deceptive when judging colors.

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Old 02-13-2013, 03:27 PM   #6
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Define "med reducer"? Are you saying DT860 DT870 or DT885, --and what temps are the air coming across the sheetmetal? Also, what kind of gun and what is your physical strength like? It can be painted all at once with a slower thinner however your 'stamina' needs to be there (tired hands, arms, & brain cause runs!!). No harm in spraying in stages if that is what it takes to get a slick finish.
70deg reducer, shop temp about 65, HVLP gun w/ 1.4 tip. stamina is ok, used to paint big trucks.
I noticed in your pictures that the door looked to be masked, did you paint the other side first?
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Old 02-13-2013, 03:29 PM   #7
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ive found that if you try to paint every thing at one time,eventually you will drag a hose over the wet paint or touch it with your hand or some part of your clothes, so i paint in steps, takes a little longer and maybe costs a little more for materials, but the chance of having to touch up some thing is greatly reduced, even when painting my 50's street rods i paint in 2 steps even when painting one color, i paint the hood. roof and deck lid, then i mask and paint the rest of the car, quarter panels and front fenders,no chance of having the air hose touching wet paint, but thats just me
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Thanks Brent , I see the lower color now .
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How much paint does your crew throw at the roof bows?
Just a single coat? Or is it hit a few times and allowed to soak in?
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Brent ;you seem to restore many ..As.. Im looking for a color code for Rose Beige for my 29 sport coupe my supplier says they cant cross the IM 119 dupont color to Sherwin williams nobody else sells dupont or Ditzler in my area. My supplier sold all them but SW bought them out and they say they cant crossreference them ...I think its a bunch of hoecum but who knows.Hopeing you might have a code thats close???
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steve, i have two codes, dupont ds 086, and ppg 119
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ford3 I have those codes also .Thank you I will do more searching and watching this thread. Im not understanding why they cant crossreference these,they used to do it all the time .My car had been stripped and painted in late 60s early 70s (i was told)so no paint chips or anything to match up with. all I found was a little Seal Brown and a peice of orange stripe under one door handle and the paint on car ,trim,headlights and everything was copper. I was curious if any other #s had come up
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Originally the gas tank WAS installed prior to painting. So were the doors however we don't do it that way!

The bottom is Rock Moss Green too (in satin finish). The lights inside a spray booth can be deceptive when judging colors.

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If you paint the tank and cowl separately, how do you get the cowl welting painted ?

And, while I'm at it, how do you get the tank/cowl/welting assembly raintight? Do you use any kind of sealer ? (I will be using Roy Naczewitz' welting.)
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Brent,

If you paint the tank and cowl separately, how do you get the cowl welting painted ?

And, while I'm at it, how do you get the tank/cowl/welting assembly raintight? Do you use any kind of sealer ? (I will be using Roy Naczewitz' welting.)
Paint it first.
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Found a local jobber for Dupont .......yea....Can and will mix these colors....I quess some places arnt interested iF its not in computer back on track
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LOL Steve, sounds like Auto Zone, they dont own a catalog, if its not in the computer its not made
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So, where are these steps you are painting?
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So, Mike, if you paint the gas tank welt first, how do you manage to install it without cracking off the paint? And, how do you get the assembly rain-tight ?
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Brent,

If you paint the tank and cowl separately, how do you get the cowl welting painted ?

And, while I'm at it, how do you get the tank/cowl/welting assembly raintight? Do you use any kind of sealer ? (I will be using Roy Naczewitz' welting.)
See below. If the tank properly fits the cowl, then it will seal.


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So, Mike, if you paint the gas tank welt first, how do you manage to install it without cracking off the paint? And, how do you get the assembly rain-tight ?

Well I am not Mike but our method is to use the correct type welt that has be "fitted" first. Then spray one light coat of color (with flex agent optional) and then install when dry. Two or three things gets you into trouble if you do it incorrectly. First off, I am using a non-plastic type welting so paint sticks better. Wipe it thoroughly with Wax & Grease Remover and then spray with Bulldog Adhesion Promoter just prior to color coating. Next, only one-coat it as it doesn't need multiple layers of paint. Having it prefitted reduces the handling which reduces the chances of damage during installation. Look on the left side of the 1st picture below.

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Paint both the inside and out at the same time. It's easier that way and a truck can is really small. But if you feel like you might not be fast enough or have enough stamina the pain the can and bed at seperate times
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