The Ford Barn

luckyal · 02-06-2013, 08:02 PM

I am a Newbie to the site but not to the hobby ! I may be out of place and I am sure I will be told so, but what about this ?

Why doesn't the site owner ( Ryan I guess ) post a suggested minimal yearly fee / dues ( maybe $ 10 to $ 15 dollars ) and a site address. Those that wished to donate to help defray his costs could send in the fee and those that did not wish to could ignore it. Maybe in return there could be a Fordbarn wall certificate or keychain mailed to registered members. No obligation on anyone's part but a way of showing appreciation for the courtesy extended to the users of Fordbarn. In these days of economic hardship all freebies must come to an end so lets take proactive measures to protect the site !

msmaron · 02-06-2013, 08:13 PM

I believe the Barn and the hobby are out to help people. Not always does everyone need to make a buck. Advertisers, parts vendors and such assist in payments of advertising to do that. I would not ask Ryan not expect to know how he runs his business, but i do think if you start charging on sites like this for hobbys you will see many people leave. There is a wealth of knowledge here that is "SHARED" by many and designed to stay that way. JMHO as a business owner myself.

luckyal · 02-06-2013, 08:24 PM

I am also a business owner myself so I have to think outside the box ! I did in the original post say it was a voluntary dues payment and not compulsory ! Nobody gets hurt and everyone benefits ! Al

gz · 02-06-2013, 08:24 PM

Ryan's other site, The Jalopy Journal (aka: The HAMB) has the option of becoming an Alliance Member for a mere 50.00.You get a really cool aluminum plaque with your user name inscribed (I have the radiator of my 1928 roadster covered in them now). I am an alliance member of the HAMB and would gladly become one on Ford Barn if it were available. Ryan does a great job in providing this site and I would gladly contribute to its support, as I would hope many other people would too.

Hicktick · 02-06-2013, 08:31 PM

Back last year I suggested a donate button for those that wanted to pitch in .

I posted over in the suggestion part but never got an answer .

62pan · 02-06-2013, 08:46 PM

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When Ryan took over the Fordbarn he was asked about membership and he said.

If you gave me money I wouldn't know what to do with it. Put it in your car!

msmaron · 02-06-2013, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 62pan

When Ryan took over the Fordbarn he was asked about membership and he said.

If you gave me money I wouldn't know what to do with it. Put it in your car!

one of the reasons this is a great site...SHARING information!

luckyal · 02-06-2013, 09:17 PM

You can still SHARE and pay dues, especially when they are voluntary. To suggest you can no longer SHARE because you pay is ludicrous !!
I don't know why anyone would object. If you don't agree you say no and itt is over. If you do agree you pay the stipend and it is over. What has changed ?

Dave Mc · 02-06-2013, 09:25 PM

Sure was a nice day today

George Miller · 02-06-2013, 09:34 PM

I for one will not be giving out any information if I have to pay to help some one. Why would any one want to pay to help.

msmaron · 02-06-2013, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Mc

Sure was a nice day today

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Miller

I for one will not be giving out any information if I have to pay to help some one. Why would any one want to pay to help.

Best line...Sure was a nice day.....this site is FREE to share information, educate and enhance our experiance with other members here who freely give time and many of us give it FREELY...if you want to pay that is great, but i think you can see the way this is going..

As Ryan says..this site is for Restoration of the Model A Ford..enjoy it..

wrndln · 02-06-2013, 09:50 PM

I don't know why Luckyal even brought up volunteering to pay a fee for this site. It seems like everything is going along just fine just as it is. The site is great to get help and provide help to model A's that need it or can provide it. I think if Ryan wanted to impose a fee, then he should bring it up. Just my opinion.
Rusty Nelson

Joe K · 02-06-2013, 09:58 PM

Another forum I belong to has an annual "fund drive." The owner recommends $12 annually to cover overheads. Membership is perhaps 1000. But the fee/contribution is strictly voluntary.

He does have a Paypal Donate button on the header. But other than the annual reminder, no advertisements or anything.

And he has shown his "target" and where the fundraising stands relative to that - done with the classic "thermometer" indicator.

I sent him his $12 now a couple of years. It seemed the least I could do.

Joe K

ScottNW/Ohio · 02-06-2013, 09:58 PM

Well it WAS a nice day....
I've always considered this site a "brotherhood"ofr "fatherly advice" site.
Not so sure I would belong to a 'pay' site (you guys are not that good looking /

, but then neither am I.
Can't we just enjoy the hobby without always reaching for your wallet?
Fordbarn is one of the few things left that you don't have to pay a membership or fee or a TAX

Step-down · 02-06-2013, 10:00 PM

My Dad use to say don't talk about Money, Politics and Religion ..Sorry I break the third one all the time ....

luckyal · 02-06-2013, 10:03 PM

Still is a nice day today ! Because someone suggests something you don't agree with does not change the day.
No MsMaron I don't see where this is going. I think it has tremendous merit !I have not seen one substantail reason not to pay when it is voluntary. If it was compulsory of course there would be resistance !

Tom Wesenberg · 02-06-2013, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by luckyal

Still is a nice day today ! Because someone suggests something you don't agree with does not change the day.
No MsMaron I don't see where this is going. I think it has tremendous merit !I have not seen one substantail reason not to pay when it is voluntary. If it was compulsory of course there would be resistance !

You could make a donation to the Model A museum in honor of Fordbarn.

Fred K-OR · 02-06-2013, 10:20 PM

If Ryan needs money to support this site, then like mentioned, it would seem like he is the one that should suggest it. If he does need to have support for expenses, then it would seem reasonable for members of this site to contribute. Whether it continues to be free or a contribution is needed, it is important to continue this site for members of this hobby. Thus free or a small fee, Ryan do what you want or need to do.

luckyal · 02-06-2013, 10:20 PM

Yes Tom we could both make a donation to the museum and Fordbarn. And as long as we were not told we had to do it why would anyone complain. I am sure with your 8000 plus posts you would agree that a small donation to Fordbarn is a worthwhile investment to keep your source of entertasinment going ! ....and it is still a nice day !

MikeK · 02-06-2013, 10:22 PM

If there was a FordBarn Alliance membership like the H.A.M.B. I'd pony up.

02-06-2013, 08:02 PM	#1
luckyal Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: wherever I am today, whatzit matter Posts: 431	Why not a small yearly fee for use ? I am a Newbie to the site but not to the hobby ! I may be out of place and I am sure I will be told so, but what about this ? Why doesn't the site owner ( Ryan I guess ) post a suggested minimal yearly fee / dues ( maybe $ 10 to $ 15 dollars ) and a site address. Those that wished to donate to help defray his costs could send in the fee and those that did not wish to could ignore it. Maybe in return there could be a Fordbarn wall certificate or keychain mailed to registered members. No obligation on anyone's part but a way of showing appreciation for the courtesy extended to the users of Fordbarn. In these days of economic hardship all freebies must come to an end so lets take proactive measures to protect the site !

02-06-2013, 08:13 PM	#2
msmaron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wauconda, IL Posts: 3,600	Re: Why not a small yearly fee for use ? I believe the Barn and the hobby are out to help people. Not always does everyone need to make a buck. Advertisers, parts vendors and such assist in payments of advertising to do that. I would not ask Ryan not expect to know how he runs his business, but i do think if you start charging on sites like this for hobbys you will see many people leave. There is a wealth of knowledge here that is "SHARED" by many and designed to stay that way. JMHO as a business owner myself. __________________ Mark Maron Ill., Region MARC & MAFCA MARC JSC Member MAFFI Trustee National Facebook Admin. https://www.facebook.com/groups/MARC.group/ A7191-Sport Coupe 29 Roadster 29-Town Sedan 29-Original Special Coupe

02-06-2013, 08:24 PM	#3
luckyal Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: wherever I am today, whatzit matter Posts: 431	Re: Why not a small yearly fee for use ? I am also a business owner myself so I have to think outside the box ! I did in the original post say it was a voluntary dues payment and not compulsory ! Nobody gets hurt and everyone benefits ! Al

02-06-2013, 08:31 PM	#5
Hicktick Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Hickory Tavern , SC Posts: 422	Re: Why not a small yearly fee for use ? Back last year I suggested a donate button for those that wanted to pitch in . I posted over in the suggestion part but never got an answer .

02-06-2013, 08:46 PM	#6
62pan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Middletown Pa Posts: 393	Re: Why not a small yearly fee for use ? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) When Ryan took over the Fordbarn he was asked about membership and he said. If you gave me money I wouldn't know what to do with it. Put it in your car!

02-06-2013, 09:17 PM	#8
luckyal Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: wherever I am today, whatzit matter Posts: 431	Re: Why not a small yearly fee for use ? You can still SHARE and pay dues, especially when they are voluntary. To suggest you can no longer SHARE because you pay is ludicrous !! I don't know why anyone would object. If you don't agree you say no and itt is over. If you do agree you pay the stipend and it is over. What has changed ?

02-06-2013, 09:25 PM	#9
Dave Mc Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Indian Hills,Nevada Posts: 358	Re: Why not a small yearly fee for use ? Sure was a nice day today __________________ Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him, better take a closer look at the American Indian!" - Henry Ford

02-06-2013, 09:34 PM	#10
George Miller Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NC Posts: 2,975	Re: Why not a small yearly fee for use ? I for one will not be giving out any information if I have to pay to help some one. Why would any one want to pay to help.

02-06-2013, 09:50 PM	#12
wrndln Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lakeville, MN Posts: 5,177	Re: Why not a small yearly fee for use ? I don't know why Luckyal even brought up volunteering to pay a fee for this site. It seems like everything is going along just fine just as it is. The site is great to get help and provide help to model A's that need it or can provide it. I think if Ryan wanted to impose a fee, then he should bring it up. Just my opinion. Rusty Nelson

02-06-2013, 09:58 PM	#13
Joe K Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cow Hampshire Posts: 4,188	Re: Why not a small yearly fee for use ? Another forum I belong to has an annual "fund drive." The owner recommends $12 annually to cover overheads. Membership is perhaps 1000. But the fee/contribution is strictly voluntary. He does have a Paypal Donate button on the header. But other than the annual reminder, no advertisements or anything. And he has shown his "target" and where the fundraising stands relative to that - done with the classic "thermometer" indicator. I sent him his $12 now a couple of years. It seemed the least I could do. Joe K __________________ Shudda kept the horse.

02-06-2013, 09:58 PM	#14
ScottNW/Ohio Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Convoy, Ohio Posts: 124	Re: Why not a small yearly fee for use ? Well it WAS a nice day.... I've always considered this site a "brotherhood"ofr "fatherly advice" site. Not so sure I would belong to a 'pay' site (you guys are not that good looking /, but then neither am I. Can't we just enjoy the hobby without always reaching for your wallet? Fordbarn is one of the few things left that you don't have to pay a membership or fee or a TAX

02-06-2013, 10:00 PM	#15
Step-down Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Hat City (Danbury CT) Posts: 647	Re: Why not a small yearly fee for use ? My Dad use to say don't talk about Money, Politics and Religion ..Sorry I break the third one all the time .... __________________ "I can't cry as long as I know the Lord has risen "

02-06-2013, 10:03 PM	#16
luckyal Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: wherever I am today, whatzit matter Posts: 431	Re: Why not a small yearly fee for use ? Still is a nice day today ! Because someone suggests something you don't agree with does not change the day. No MsMaron I don't see where this is going. I think it has tremendous merit !I have not seen one substantail reason not to pay when it is voluntary. If it was compulsory of course there would be resistance !

02-06-2013, 10:20 PM	#18
Fred K-OR Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Stayton, Oregon Posts: 3,806	Re: Why not a small yearly fee for use ? If Ryan needs money to support this site, then like mentioned, it would seem like he is the one that should suggest it. If he does need to have support for expenses, then it would seem reasonable for members of this site to contribute. Whether it continues to be free or a contribution is needed, it is important to continue this site for members of this hobby. Thus free or a small fee, Ryan do what you want or need to do. __________________ Fred Kroon 1929 Std Coupe 1929 Huckster

02-06-2013, 10:22 PM	#20
MikeK Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Windy City Posts: 2,919	Re: Why not a small yearly fee for use ? If there was a FordBarn Alliance membership like the H.A.M.B. I'd pony up.