Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Early V8 (1932-53)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-06-2025, 09:56 AM   #1
Kube
Super Moderator
 
Kube's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 10,539
Default Distributor "guts" swap possible?

1) Can I swap the entire "guts" from a '37 - '41 distributor into a '36 distributor?
2)How about between early and late '36 distributors?
__________________
"I can explain it for you. However, I can't understand it for you".
Kube is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2025, 10:18 AM   #2
rockfla
Senior Member
 
rockfla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Jacksonville FL
Posts: 5,164
Default Re: Distributor "guts" swap possible?

Following…..I know for sure it’s not a direct swap for the 32 distributor, it takes a minor modification…..I “believe” it’s a direct swap to the 40 & 68’s but not 100% on that!!!
rockfla is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 09-06-2025, 10:21 AM   #3
Tim Ayers
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: NJ
Posts: 7,226
Default Re: Distributor "guts" swap possible?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kube View Post
1) Can I swap the entire "guts" from a '37 - '41 distributor into a '36 distributor?
2)How about between early and late '36 distributors?
Kube,

Is the '37-'41 the 11A plate? If it is, then I believe so. The 11A is reported to be the best version of the "helmet" dizzies. I don't fool with the helmet style distributors, but if I found an 11A plate, I would consider it.

I don't know enough about the differences between an early & late '36 dizzy to say it will go into an early one.
Tim Ayers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2025, 11:46 AM   #4
Ken/Alabama
Senior Member
 
Ken/Alabama's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Alabama
Posts: 3,455
Default Re: Distributor "guts" swap possible?

I’ve done it but it’s been a while. It’s all a direct fit as I recall. I’m thinking if you use the later rotor you’ll need to use the later caps. Early rotor use early caps. If my memory is correct.
Ken/Alabama is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2025, 12:31 PM   #5
V8guy
Member
 
V8guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Milwaukee Wi
Posts: 98
Default Re: Distributor "guts" swap possible?

The late 36 Flat top Dist uses the same points as the 37-48 and I believe the 11A parts fit
V8guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2025, 02:12 PM   #6
38 coupe
Senior Member
 
38 coupe's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: South Texas
Posts: 2,135
Default Re: Distributor "guts" swap possible?

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kube View Post
1) Can I swap the entire "guts" from a '37 - '41 distributor into a '36 distributor?
2)How about between early and late '36 distributors?
Yes and no.

The "late" 36 distributor, the "snuff can coil" unit, will swap all internal parts up through the 1941 "11A" distributor. The 11A advance is a nice upgrade, all other parts are the same.

The early 36 distributor, the 33-36 unit, can swap the 37-41 shaft and point plate, but must use the early rotor and inner caps. The 11A advance can be a nice upgrade, but the point adjustment is more frustrating.

The 33-early 36 distributors are wider and longer than the late 36-41 distributors. The early rotor and caps fill in the extra distances when compared to the later parts.

With effort you can also go the other way, putting the bigger early rotor and inner caps in the later distributors. You have to shorten the front of the rotor, file down the rotor tips, and file the inner cap contacts to match. It is a lot of work for little gain, only do this if you have spare time and otherwise good used early inner rotor and caps with tips burned by arcing. I did this twice using later housings that allowed the point adjustment hole to be added allowing use of the complete early guts with externally adjustable point gaps. The distributors run nice, but the only possible advantages are the ability to get very small rotor to cap gaps, and the ability to use early points with their easier adjustment. I don't think I will do this again.

Last edited by 38 coupe; 09-06-2025 at 02:17 PM.
38 coupe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2025, 03:29 PM   #7
Kube
Super Moderator
 
Kube's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 10,539
Default Re: Distributor "guts" swap possible?

Quote:
Originally Posted by 38 coupe View Post
Yes and no.

The "late" 36 distributor, the "snuff can coil" unit, will swap all internal parts up through the 1941 "11A" distributor. The 11A advance is a nice upgrade, all other parts are the same.

The early 36 distributor, the 33-36 unit, can swap the 37-41 shaft and point plate, but must use the early rotor and inner caps. The 11A advance can be a nice upgrade, but the point adjustment is more frustrating.

The 33-early 36 distributors are wider and longer than the late 36-41 distributors. The early rotor and caps fill in the extra distances when compared to the later parts.

With effort you can also go the other way, putting the bigger early rotor and inner caps in the later distributors. You have to shorten the front of the rotor, file down the rotor tips, and file the inner cap contacts to match. It is a lot of work for little gain, only do this if you have spare time and otherwise good used early inner rotor and caps with tips burned by arcing. I did this twice using later housings that allowed the point adjustment hole to be added allowing use of the complete early guts with externally adjustable point gaps. The distributors run nice, but the only possible advantages are the ability to get very small rotor to cap gaps, and the ability to use early points with their easier adjustment. I don't think I will do this again.
Thanks much!
__________________
"I can explain it for you. However, I can't understand it for you".
Kube is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2025, 11:01 PM   #8
big deuce
Senior Member
 
big deuce's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Kansas
Posts: 734
Default Re: Distributor "guts" swap possible?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Ayers View Post
Kube,

Is the '37-'41 the 11A plate? If it is, then I believe so. The 11A is reported to be the best version of the "helmet" dizzies. I don't fool with the helmet style distributors, but if I found an 11A plate, I would consider it.

I don't know enough about the differences between an early & late '36 dizzy to say it will go into an early one.
I believe the '41 helmet had the 11A, and 42-48 is all they had. I bought a couple NOS ones from Iron Trap Garage.
big deuce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2025, 06:36 AM   #9
Terry,OH
Senior Member
 
Terry,OH's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 5,394
Default Re: Distributor "guts" swap possible?

As mentioned by 38 Coupe: Yes to the late 36 distributor with the flat top coil. If using 41 internals do swap all internals since they are matched set.
Terry,OH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2025, 07:47 AM   #10
Kube
Super Moderator
 
Kube's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 10,539
Default Re: Distributor "guts" swap possible?

Thanks again guys. Much obliged!
__________________
"I can explain it for you. However, I can't understand it for you".
Kube is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2025, 08:07 AM   #11
Tim Ayers
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: NJ
Posts: 7,226
Default Re: Distributor "guts" swap possible?

Quote:
Originally Posted by big deuce View Post
I believe the '41 helmet had the 11A, and 42-48 is all they had. I bought a couple NOS ones from Iron Trap Garage.
Ah. Thank you
Tim Ayers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2025, 08:31 AM   #12
35fordtn
Senior Member
 
35fordtn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: McMinnville, TN
Posts: 2,468
Default Re: Distributor "guts" swap possible?

We do it all the time. If the engine has dome pistons, the 11A guts are prefered. Youll use the early rotor and the later everything else. The cast iron housing has to be swapped or if you use the original the stamped steel dust ring needs to be removed.
35fordtn is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:13 AM.