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wrndln · 03-30-2011, 09:56 AM

I hate to post a non-model A related subject, but I have run out of options on trying to remove the wheel on my snowblower. My snowblower (I have used it more this winter here in MN than the last 3 or 4 four winters combined) has a tire that keep going flat. I decided to take it to a repair shop to get it replaced or a tube installed. After fighting the retaining bolt that holds it in place, I finally got the bolt removed. I thought I could just pull the rim off the axle. Boy was I wrong! I have been spraying penetrating oil in the small crack between the axle and rim for a day now. I am having no luck getting it loose. I tried to drive it around some with the retaining bolt removed to hopefully loosed the rim, but no luck there either. I really don't want to use heat as it would really do a job on the painted rim. Besides that, the rim has about 2 1/2" of contact with the axle and I can't get to the back side (half of the 2 1/2") to heat it. I thought with all the model A knowledge for separating rusted part, someone might have a solution to getting the tire and rim off the axle. Any help would be appreciated.
Rusty Nelson

1931 flamingo · 03-30-2011, 10:21 AM

Turn blower on it's side, drain the oil and fuel if you have to. Make a 50/50 mixture of acetone and automatic trans fluid and por on axle end, do this for as long as it takes, then set upright and try a long crow bar or something to try to pry wheel off. If it movessome, now lubricate the back side and exposed front part of wheel and tap back in to original position. Repeat as necessary. Or you could try removing tire, drill couple of holes thru wheel and add atf/acetone that way. JMO
Paul in CT

Tom Wesenberg · 03-30-2011, 10:22 AM

Jack it up and remove the tire without removing the wheel. No need to remove the wheel and I have a lawn mower axle with the same type wheel rusted in place premanently.

First take some soapy water and apply it around the valve stem to see if that where the air is leaking. Also apply the soapy water on both tire beads. If no leaks are found,then remove the tire. There is also a product called SLIME that is supposed to fix slow leaks, but it never worked for me.

When the leak is fixed, leave the bolt out in hopes that a lot of use and oil will eventually free up the rust.

31Tudor · 03-30-2011, 10:24 AM

What's a snow blower Ha Ha

Rusty Homestead Fl · 03-30-2011, 10:41 AM

I had the same problem with a wheel on my mower. I didn't want to exert my lazy self too much so I pumped in some "SLIME" tire sealer. (tubeless tire) Got it at Home Depot in the mower dept. but it's avaliable most anywhere. Works great and havn't had to mess with it for months now. fwiw

Benson · 03-30-2011, 11:00 AM

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About Slime ...

This when we still checked tires and oil level for every customer.

The owner of the Fina gas station that I worked at in the 60's had a standing order ... always carry two tire gauges, one was for the customers that had bought tires from the station ... the other cheap one was for anyone that you were not sure of.

He went "crazy mad" once when one guy forgot and used his good gauge on a tire filled with "Crazy Goo Glue" as Ken Keintz called it. "That G D Crazy Goo Glue just ruined another 75 cent gauge"! This was long before Crazy Glue was invented!

The station had the best soda machine in town ... it froze Mountain Dew so cold that when you removed the cap there was a "crunching" noise as the soda instantly turned into slush. Best drink in town.

Ken had two machines ... one for customers and this one out back in the tire storage area for employees and special customers who knew about it.

Ken liked me to park the Sport Coupe out front because "it was good for business".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

Jack it up and remove the tire without removing the wheel. No need to remove the wheel and I have a lawn mower axle with the same type wheel rusted in place premanently.

First take some soapy water and apply it around the valve stem to see if that where the air is leaking. Also apply the soapy water on both tire beads. If no leaks are found,then remove the tire. There is also a product called SLIME that is supposed to fix slow leaks, but it never worked for me.

When the leak is fixed, leave the bolt out in hopes that a lot of use and oil will eventually free up the rust.

wrndln · 03-30-2011, 12:14 PM

I have tried aerosol sealers before and like Tom, I have had no luck sealing the tires. The tire has a relatively slow leak, like maybe 1 month before it goes totally flat. I guess I could buy some fresh Slime or sealer and give it a try. I did try a new valve core and that didn't help. The main problem, as you can see from the picture, is the axle is flush with the rim and the two of them are about even with the outside flange of the rim. So there isn't much area to spray the penetrating oil. I suppose I could fill the whole rim area with ATF and acetone and see if it reaches the axle/rim area. I hope it doesn't snow any more. I have seen snow as late as May here - ugh. It is a lot of fun living on a frozen tundra. Thanks for the suggestions so far.
Rusty Nelson

Steve Plucker · 03-30-2011, 11:51 PM

Rusty,

AT LEAST YOU SAID "NOT MODEL A RELATED"!

What is a snowblower?????? (How the hell do you guys put up those faces?).

Pluck

1931 flamingo · 03-31-2011, 09:20 AM

Steve: They're on the "go advanced" style post Just click on the box lower right after hitting "post reply". Other options there also.
Paul in CT

eeyore · 03-31-2011, 11:02 AM

This is a snowblower

http://theoldmotor.com/wp-content/up...1/02/Tahoe.jpg

eeyore · 03-31-2011, 11:04 AM

click on the link below the picture also please.

wrndln · 03-31-2011, 11:24 AM

This snowblower is just a little bigger than mine! Mine is a 8HP 26" unit I have used for 28 years. I think the snowblower in the picture could do my driveway in about 5 seconds. It takes me about 20 minutes. Nice picture and link.
Rusty Nelson

eeyore · 03-31-2011, 12:23 PM

after it did your driveway it could do Steve's

Tom from Drippin' · 03-31-2011, 12:55 PM

Can you get to the back side of the center portion of the wheel?
If so, you could drill holes for 3 bolts with nuts on inside and attach a 3 prong puller. Put the nut on the axle to protect the threads and crank away.

Bill in Al · 03-31-2011, 05:57 PM

How about the big hammer technique as used on stuck hubs? You may have to use an iron block or or pipe to hit with the hammer.

sonny30coupe · 03-31-2011, 10:08 PM

I thought this was a Model A site?

Cory Moffat · 03-31-2011, 10:26 PM

Everyone needs help with somthing sometime.
Nice to know the barrn is here. Model A related or not.

MikeK · 03-31-2011, 10:42 PM

If the snow has your A blocked in, I consider it "Model A Related".

James Rogers · 04-01-2011, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 31Tudor

What's a snow blower Ha Ha

They use them up at Wolf Laurel to get the slopes ready for skiing, ROTFLMAO, HA, HA, HA.

James Rogers · 04-01-2011, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeK

If the snow has your A blocked in, I consider it "Model A Related".

Great cut. There is almost always some way to make a post Model A related. Maybe he should have began, "Snow has covered my driveway and I can't get my A out to go to the store for bread and milk so I can have milk sandwiches. The snowblower has a flat and I can't get the wheel off to fix it. Any ideas how to get this off?" Would this keep the internet police at bay, probably not but, worth a try.

03-30-2011, 09:56 AM	#1
wrndln Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lakeville, MN Posts: 5,346	Not model A related, but need help I hate to post a non-model A related subject, but I have run out of options on trying to remove the wheel on my snowblower. My snowblower (I have used it more this winter here in MN than the last 3 or 4 four winters combined) has a tire that keep going flat. I decided to take it to a repair shop to get it replaced or a tube installed. After fighting the retaining bolt that holds it in place, I finally got the bolt removed. I thought I could just pull the rim off the axle. Boy was I wrong! I have been spraying penetrating oil in the small crack between the axle and rim for a day now. I am having no luck getting it loose. I tried to drive it around some with the retaining bolt removed to hopefully loosed the rim, but no luck there either. I really don't want to use heat as it would really do a job on the painted rim. Besides that, the rim has about 2 1/2" of contact with the axle and I can't get to the back side (half of the 2 1/2") to heat it. I thought with all the model A knowledge for separating rusted part, someone might have a solution to getting the tire and rim off the axle. Any help would be appreciated. Rusty Nelson

03-30-2011, 10:21 AM	#2
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,428	Re: Not model A related, but need help Turn blower on it's side, drain the oil and fuel if you have to. Make a 50/50 mixture of acetone and automatic trans fluid and por on axle end, do this for as long as it takes, then set upright and try a long crow bar or something to try to pry wheel off. If it movessome, now lubricate the back side and exposed front part of wheel and tap back in to original position. Repeat as necessary. Or you could try removing tire, drill couple of holes thru wheel and add atf/acetone that way. JMO Paul in CT

03-30-2011, 10:22 AM	#3
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Not model A related, but need help Jack it up and remove the tire without removing the wheel. No need to remove the wheel and I have a lawn mower axle with the same type wheel rusted in place premanently. First take some soapy water and apply it around the valve stem to see if that where the air is leaking. Also apply the soapy water on both tire beads. If no leaks are found,then remove the tire. There is also a product called SLIME that is supposed to fix slow leaks, but it never worked for me. When the leak is fixed, leave the bolt out in hopes that a lot of use and oil will eventually free up the rust.

03-30-2011, 10:24 AM	#4
31Tudor Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: North Carolina Posts: 611	Re: Not model A related, but need help What's a snow blower Ha Ha

03-30-2011, 10:41 AM	#5
Rusty Homestead Fl Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Homestead, Fl Posts: 351	Re: Not model A related, but need help I had the same problem with a wheel on my mower. I didn't want to exert my lazy self too much so I pumped in some "SLIME" tire sealer. (tubeless tire) Got it at Home Depot in the mower dept. but it's avaliable most anywhere. Works great and havn't had to mess with it for months now. fwiw

03-30-2011, 12:14 PM	#7
wrndln Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lakeville, MN Posts: 5,346	Re: Not model A related, but need help I have tried aerosol sealers before and like Tom, I have had no luck sealing the tires. The tire has a relatively slow leak, like maybe 1 month before it goes totally flat. I guess I could buy some fresh Slime or sealer and give it a try. I did try a new valve core and that didn't help. The main problem, as you can see from the picture, is the axle is flush with the rim and the two of them are about even with the outside flange of the rim. So there isn't much area to spray the penetrating oil. I suppose I could fill the whole rim area with ATF and acetone and see if it reaches the axle/rim area. I hope it doesn't snow any more. I have seen snow as late as May here - ugh. It is a lot of fun living on a frozen tundra. Thanks for the suggestions so far. Rusty Nelson

03-30-2011, 11:51 PM	#8
Steve Plucker BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA Posts: 6,066	Re: Not model A related, but need help Rusty, AT LEAST YOU SAID "*NOT MODEL A RELATED"*! What is a snowblower?????? (How the hell do you guys put up those faces?). Pluck

03-31-2011, 09:20 AM	#9
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,428	Re: Not model A related, but need help Steve: They're on the "go advanced" style post Just click on the box lower right after hitting "post reply". Other options there also. Paul in CT

03-31-2011, 11:02 AM	#10
eeyore Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MADISON, OHIO Posts: 134	Re: Not model A related, but need help This is a snowblower http://theoldmotor.com/wp-content/up...1/02/Tahoe.jpg

03-31-2011, 11:04 AM	#11
eeyore Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MADISON, OHIO Posts: 134	Re: Not model A related, but need help click on the link below the picture also please.

03-31-2011, 11:24 AM	#12
wrndln Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lakeville, MN Posts: 5,346	Re: Not model A related, but need help This snowblower is just a little bigger than mine! Mine is a 8HP 26" unit I have used for 28 years. I think the snowblower in the picture could do my driveway in about 5 seconds. It takes me about 20 minutes. Nice picture and link. Rusty Nelson

03-31-2011, 12:23 PM	#13
eeyore Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MADISON, OHIO Posts: 134	Re: Not model A related, but need help after it did your driveway it could do Steve's

03-31-2011, 12:55 PM	#14
Tom from Drippin' Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Dripping Springs, Texas Posts: 286	Re: Not model A related, but need help Can you get to the back side of the center portion of the wheel? If so, you could drill holes for 3 bolts with nuts on inside and attach a 3 prong puller. Put the nut on the axle to protect the threads and crank away. __________________ The pursuit of excellence is healthy and rewarding. The pursuit of perfection is frustrating, neurotic and a terrible waste of time.

03-31-2011, 05:57 PM	#15
Bill in Al Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Pell City (New London) Al Posts: 317	Re: Not model A related, but need help How about the big hammer technique as used on stuck hubs? You may have to use an iron block or or pipe to hit with the hammer.

03-31-2011, 10:08 PM	#16
sonny30coupe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kansas City KS Posts: 255	Re: Not model A related, but need help I thought this was a Model A site?

03-31-2011, 10:26 PM	#17
Cory Moffat Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chief lake BC Canada Posts: 77	Re: Not model A related, but need help Everyone needs help with somthing sometime. Nice to know the barrn is here. Model A related or not.

03-31-2011, 10:42 PM	#18
MikeK Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Windy City Posts: 2,919	Re: Not model A related, but need help If the snow has your A blocked in, I consider it "Model A Related".