1963-1964 White Interiors - Ford M-# for white interior paint

[alt63bird]

I'm on a mission to find Ford's M-#s for white interior colors used in '64 Fords, Fairlanes, Falcons, Mustangs and T-birds. In going through Ditzler, duPont, Rinshed-Mason, Acme and Martin-Seynour color charts, I'm having little to no luck finding an off-white or 'pearl' white interior semi-gloss paint chip and/or Ford's color number, i.e. M30J-xxxx for alkyd enamel, M4J-xxxx for lacquer, AE60-xxxx for acrylic enamel, etc.

While I found a '65 interior listing with M4J-1824 (lacquer), I don't think it was used for '64 interiors; I suspect a unique color number was used for 'Pearl White' (the description in Ford Body catalogs for color used on painted parts in '64). Photos I've seen of '64 vs '65 white interiors make me think that '1824' is a bright white color vs. a 'pearl' or off-white. I don't think that Wimbledon White (code 'M' / AE60-1619 for acrylic enamel) nor '64-1/2 Mustang Pace Car White (code 'C' / M30J-1525 or AE60-1619) was used as the basis for the interior color for dash pads, door panels, vinyl-coated parts like consoles and rear package trays or textured steel parts like the seat back shields and seat bottom skirts, especially if they were considered to be a 'pearl' finish. In fact, Ford's M-#'s used for interior colors in '64 ranged from 1429 to 1715, with several in the 1500s and many in the 1600s.

Anyone have any documentation as to what 'white' was used for '64 interiors?

[rotorwrench]

I looked at the chip charts in the auto color library from TCP Global and those charts mostly show Wimbleton white and Pace Car white in that time frame. Only the Mercury charts show a white in the specific interior color charts. You may have already checked them. you can look here. https://www.autocolorlibrary.com/

There are Ford Lincoln & Mercury charts so you might want to check them all in 1963 & 64.
There is a Polar white in the Mercury colors.

I used to have a 1964 T-bird that was Wimbleton white. It is sort of an ivory color but the interior was all black with leather seats. FoMoCo was limited in the number of interior dash and molding colors in most of the mid 60s cars. There was a lot less available than what was available for the exterior colors.

I have always purchased body parts catalogs for the cars that I own and Ford was good about including interior colors in those catalogs.

Pearlescent paint additives have been around for a very long time and most paints that are referred to a pearl generally have that pearescent additive affect in them.

[ms fowler]

I don't believe any manufacturer was using pearl paint in 1964.
A quick search found this website ( I don't know who they are):
https://www.yortay.com/company_news/1356.html
And this quote from that page" Pearlescent pigments were not used in automotive coatings until the mid-to-late 80s, and together with metallic pigments became the most common effect pigments.

The only whites I have seen from that era are Corinthian White and Wimbledon White--both off whites toward ivory.

[alt63bird]

Originally Posted by ms fowler

I don't believe any manufacturer was using pearl paint in 1964.
A quick search found this website ( I don't know who they are):
https://www.yortay.com/company_news/1356.html
And this quote from that page" Pearlescent pigments were not used in automotive coatings until the mid-to-late 80s, and together with metallic pigments became the most common effect pigments.

The only whites I have seen from that era are Corinthian White and Wimbledon White--both off whites toward ivory.

Descriptions for interior painted parts in the Body Catalog for 1964 T-bird items like the console or seat skirts say 'White Pearl' in the Description portion of the part number listing. Pearlescent finishes were used in 'Birds going back to 1962 for beige interiors, for instance, but perhaps maybe not in the same sense that later years referred to them.

[alt63bird]

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Originally Posted by rotorwrench

I looked at the chip charts in the auto color library from TCP Global and those charts mostly show Wimbledon white and Pace Car white in that time frame. Only the Mercury charts show a white in the specific interior color charts. You may have already checked them. you can look here. https://www.autocolorlibrary.com/

There are Ford Lincoln & Mercury charts so you might want to check them all in 1963 & 64.
There is a Polar white in the Mercury colors.

'Polar White' is the same as 'Wimbledon White.' What I'm really trying to find is the Ford color number used for white interiors - the Ditzler numbers only help to cross with older/later Ditzler paint charts. So far I'm not having much luck. I do still need to check TCP Global's listings to see if they have Ford M-numbers listed.