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I just ordered at HI-COMP 5.5:1 Head for my 29 CCPU. I ordered from Snyder's and the recommended head gasket was the B-6051-M Premium Head Gasket, so that is what I ordered.
Now someone else said the best gasket is the Grey Composite Head Gasket? Is this another one of this 50 Percent on one and 50 Percent on the other opinion crap? Thoughts? |
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I use # B-6051-C Grapite. The best and lowest price.
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Do a search, some like the silicone gasket and others have had bad luck. The copper or graphite (BEST) most likely better. JMO
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graphite & copper coat both sides is what I was told
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Whatever you use, be sure to torque it and re-torque it every week for a while. Things will relax and cause you trouble.
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What Jack said!
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If you ask 4 Model A guys which head gasket to use, you'll get 5 different answers.
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When heads were "flat" ......... and tops of engines were "flat" ....... "used" head gaskets (from "all" head gasket manufacturers), worked very well often, with a "Permatex No.2" coating on both sides ...... "if" one provided the proper head tightening sequence along with the proper head bolt/nut torque.
This is Top Secret Classified Information down below extracted from 1930 Top Secret FBI securely hidden files ... so please, don't let others know: "No Model A head gasket will work to remedy Model A head gasket leaks if the mating surfaces are incorrect ............. and "if" the gasket is not installed properly." Last edited by H. L. Chauvin; 07-18-2017 at 12:07 PM. Reason: typo |
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Boy did that clear things up for me ! LOL Ok just to add to the confusion.
1. My current Head is Stock, with NO issues...not leaking etc. I would estimate around 3,000 miles since it was torn down by PO. 2. Just looking for a little more torque for hills on tours. 3. I do not know if the studs were replaced but suspect they probably were. Very good engine rebuild and no issues for 3 seasons. 4. Do I replace the studs? or if no issues is it better to leave them be? 5. I have seen torque specs of 50-60 ft lbs for a HC 5.5-1 Snyder head? So what is correct????? Thanks... the gasket comment was great 5 opinions when only 4 gaskets are available.. Love it! ![]() |
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This is what they recommend to use...
http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/b-head-gasket This is what their instructions are. http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/Co...GUIDE-3887.pdf If it fails, you can blame them. It's too bad you are in Kentucky and I'm all the way over at the other side of the continent - I'd trade you heads - straight across. But you might not want a 6:1 head... |
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I always use the copper gasket with Copper Coat on both sides. On my own engines, I've even cleaned up used copper gaskets and put them back on with success.
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I have the 5.5 Snyder head on my Babbitt engine. I torque it to 55 lbs and the stock head studs work just fine. My preference is the "Best Head Gasket" from Bert's in Denver. Use copper coat when installing the head. Good Luck!
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I don't tell anyone, but I spray BOTH sides with DULL ALUGIMUM SPRAY PAINT!---ALWAYS have!
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Hi Dave,
1. When Police heads were first produced, 80 somewhat years ago, neither the Ford highly trained engineers ............ nor even our physical prophet Mr. Albert Einstein ....... recommended specially manufactured high compression head gaskets, or special higher strength high compression head studs, or even this most brutal head and block damaging increase in head bolt torque. 2. As per your initial post's question, like why "50 Percent on the other opinion crap"? 3. In my humble opinion, this new 50% crap suggested by today's Model A prophets came from possibly only two (2) sources: A. Those Model A owners who never knew about the 1930 Top Secret FBI securely hidden Model A head gasket files; and, B. Those Model A owners who heard about the 1930 Top Secret FBI securely hidden Model A head gasket files .......... but .... they never had a Top Secret Security Clearance to access these hidden FBI files. 4. Many may not agree, but this 21st Century "Wiki-Leak" Model A Information recently exposed in the News does not even address the often mentioned rear bearing leaks in "Wiki-Leaks" ....... on page 127,493, "Wiki-Leaks" opens the files and exposes part of the 1930 Top Secret FBI securely hidden Model A head gasket files, as to "why" any Model A head gasket may leak. 5. Many still do not understand, nor did they read this 1930 hidden FBI revelation. Again, only in my opinion, your truck is simply awesome ..... also, your strong desire to seek Model A truth and trying to filter out the other Model A 50% crap is a very rare virtue ............ and definitely a step in the right direction. Last edited by H. L. Chauvin; 07-18-2017 at 10:35 PM. Reason: typo |
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So what is the secret ingredient difference between copper coat and aluminium paint?
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=a...nt+head+gasket |
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A trick my Dad taught me when I had no money, was to take the copper head gasket and
soak it overnight in water. Then put it in the freezer to swell the core and put it back on again. |
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Per #17 ....none ............ after one's misaligned, warped head and block are milled dead "flat";
and after proper Model A head torque procedure is provided, one may just just take his gasket sealant pic from many sources: Cup grease recommended in writing for Model T's by Ford; Helman's Mayonaise mixed with French's Yellow Mustard & Hunt's Ketchup ..... or non-detergent oil mixed with Greek Olive Oil and Aunt Jemima's Pancake Mix. Our Model A head gasket stock holders secretly adore repeat business from all types of warped heads. Last edited by H. L. Chauvin; 07-18-2017 at 11:48 PM. Reason: typo |
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