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05-10-2016, 07:06 PM | #1 |
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Timing pointer & rings for '36 engine?
What would be a good material to make timing pointer for '36 block, would like to use timing cover bolt. Want to run 3 piston rings instead of 4 on 4 ring pistons, are there 3 ring sets available or just leave fourth ring off?
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05-10-2016, 07:59 PM | #2 |
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Re: Timing pointer & rings for '36 engine?
this is what i did for a timing pointer, i think simpler is better.
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05-10-2016, 08:31 PM | #3 |
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Re: Timing pointer & rings for '36 engine?
Like it.
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05-10-2016, 08:36 PM | #4 |
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Re: Timing pointer & rings for '36 engine?
I like it too; but what did you do?
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05-10-2016, 09:38 PM | #5 |
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Re: Timing pointer & rings for '36 engine?
little blurb in new Streetrodder....Vern Tardel is coming out with one similar to what hotcoupe did....Tardel's is straight with slots for the two bolts on the timing cover.."comes with two bolts and four washers... can be permanent or temporary....cards is provided for marking pulley for 20 degrees of timing in either direction.".....like the looks of hotcoupe's....very nice work...Mike
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05-10-2016, 11:58 PM | #7 |
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Re: Timing pointer & rings for '36 engine?
As to the fourth ring, I just left them out. The engine will be back from the machine shop next week, so I'll know soon. I ran this (leaving out the fourth ring) through the forum, and just about everyone agreed it was probably the thing to do, given today's rings and precision machining. When I asked the machinist that is doing the work, he readily agreed. It seems he does it on tractor engines. My pistons came with the rings, so I never had a chance to see if there were 3 ring sets available.
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05-11-2016, 12:43 AM | #8 |
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Re: Timing pointer & rings for '36 engine?
Ordered the pointer from Tardel and got a line on 3 ring set of piston rings from a "Barner."
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05-11-2016, 07:35 AM | #9 |
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05-11-2016, 09:57 AM | #10 |
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05-11-2016, 10:50 AM | #11 |
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Re: Timing pointer & rings for '36 engine?
thanx for the positive comments re timing pointer. after looking at Tardels offering, i`m thinking i should start marketing one like mine.
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05-11-2016, 02:02 PM | #12 |
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Re: Timing pointer & rings for '36 engine?
Drill a hole in the center of the timing cover bolt (they are not hardened) and put in a short piece of 1/8 " brass brazing rod. Makes a perfect pointer, in the right location, not subject to bolt orientation, no cost, easy , looks good.
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05-11-2016, 08:35 PM | #13 |
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Re: Timing pointer & rings for '36 engine?
Here is the bolt pointer.
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05-11-2016, 08:49 PM | #14 |
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Re: Timing pointer & rings for '36 engine?
Very compact and neat looking.
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05-11-2016, 09:11 PM | #15 |
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Re: Timing pointer & rings for '36 engine?
That it. Looks just like mine. And free!
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05-13-2016, 12:25 AM | #16 |
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Re: Timing pointer & rings for '36 engine?
I agree on leaving out the fourth ring. It only adds friction. I've heard it said that the fourth ring somehow "stabilizes" the piston, but since rings float freely in their grooves, that is an impossibility. In reality, it's the exact opposite. The piston stabilizes the rings in the bore so they can do their job!
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05-13-2016, 06:36 AM | #17 |
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Re: Timing pointer & rings for '36 engine?
I like Floyd's suggestion best. Have seen this before and could not be any more simpler to do in my opinion,.... BUT.....for those who just like to buy and bolt stuff on, go with the Tardell piece, or try talking "hotcoupe" into going into business and making one for you
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