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08-09-2015, 08:17 AM | #1 |
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25 mph in high gear?
I have a 1939 Ford Tudor Deluxe. When my speed drops to 25 mph in high gear and I accelerate it "hesitates" or you might say, "misses out" until it reach 30-35 mph. Other than that the runs and idles perfectly. Is this normal or is there something I could do to eliminate this? It does the same thing at low speeds in second gear. I have recently had the carburetor rebuilt by Charlie NY, coil rebuilt by Skip, distributor rebuilt by Bubba's Hot Rod Shop, New gas tank and fuel line, new fuel pump, and new spark plugs.
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08-09-2015, 08:22 AM | #2 |
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Re: 25 mph in high gear?
What is the rear end ratio?
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08-09-2015, 08:23 AM | #3 |
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Re: 25 mph in high gear?
It sounds like your accelerator pump isn't putting out enough fuel. Check the operation with the engine off and the air cleaner removed. When you open the throttle you should get a nice stream of gasoline. If you need a more, move the linkage to the outside hole in the throttle shaft.
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08-09-2015, 08:27 AM | #4 |
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Re: 25 mph in high gear?
There might be more to it but perhaps you're just lugging it a bit. I have a 90 degree turn near my house that I regularly take with my 39 Merc in high gear, I feather the throttle coming out of the turn, if I would put my foot in it it would buck...... just saying.
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08-09-2015, 08:57 AM | #8 |
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Re: 25 mph in high gear?
maybe its lugging, shift down
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08-09-2015, 09:22 AM | #12 |
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Re: 25 mph in high gear?
Vacumn leak. Check hoses and gasket under carb.
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08-09-2015, 09:35 AM | #13 |
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Re: 25 mph in high gear?
The carburetor has two systems for acceleration. The accelerator pump has been mentioned but there is also a power valve. If either system has a problem, it will be very well noticed when lugging the engine and trying to accelerate. I agree with 25 mph being a low speed for high gear so it might be lugging too much at that speed. An 85-HP engine should accelerate smoothly if the speed range is correct for each gear during normal operation.
The later Mercury cars with 110-Hp and overdrive transmissions could start from a stop sign in second gear but you can tell it lugs the car a bit. It could then be shifted into overdrive around 25 mph by the governor for a semi-automatic type drive around town. It you stomp on the accelerator it will shift back into 2nd so that it won't lug. You may have a problem with the ignition system's distributor vacuum brake retard too. All this stuff works to keep the car running at a happy medium state but if any problems lurk there it will deteriorate performance to some degree. A vacuum leak could also cause problems there. Last edited by rotorwrench; 08-09-2015 at 11:47 AM. |
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Re: 25 mph in high gear?
Might be a good idea to figure out the rear axle ratio so you have some idea what is going on. Should be able to just check under the center section to see what the numbers are. Not 100% prof, but most likely still original gears.
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Re: 25 mph in high gear?
Went looking for the proper idle speed for my '40. Original owner's manual only said "5-7 MPH in high gear". And it will pick up speed smoothly in high, if everything is in tune. The trick is not to floor it completely, just gradually feed in power and away you go.
A bad accelerator pump only causes a momentary hesitation as you step on the gas. If it keeps on hesitating and missing, it's something else. Check voltage at the coil while it is running- should be something like 3.8 V. if I remember. Could be bad switch or bad connection somewhere. Could be dirt in he carb. |
08-09-2015, 05:48 PM | #16 |
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Re: 25 mph in high gear?
Thanks guys, I appreciate all of your suggestions. I will check into the things that have been suggested.
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08-10-2015, 08:33 AM | #17 |
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Re: 25 mph in high gear?
You should be able to get down to 8 or 10 MPH, slowly push the gas pedal and increase speed with NO bucking. In most cases this is caused by sticky valves.
While running drizzle MMO down both sides of the carb for about a minute, put a 1/2 quart in the fuel tank and drive about 10 miles. You should now be able to drop to 10 MPH and pull out smoothly. G.M.
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Re: 25 mph in high gear?
Agreed my little 21 stud with 28 gearset, 3.78 rear and big 16 x 7.50 will pull from 15 mph no probs. Sounds like its a small problem, tune all will be good.
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Re: 25 mph in high gear?
Hey Guys, I found the problem. It was a vacuum leak. I pinched off the vacuum line going to the windshield wipers and it performs perfectly. Thanks for all your help.
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08-16-2015, 08:16 AM | #20 |
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Re: 25 mph in high gear?
Cool. Nice one. Must have been causing a lean condition.
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