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Old 02-10-2015, 11:10 PM   #1
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Wondering if I can get some help from this forum. I need to replace the wheel studs on this hub, they need to be approx. 1/2" longer. The studs are 1/2-20. I think this axle is a model T, but to be honest I'm not sure...guess that's why I'm here.

I assuming I have to remove the entire hub to press them out the back? Also wondering if anyone knows the knurl dia. and if a Dorman product will work? Make sure it doesn't have to be some specific Model T part?

Thanks in advance, Matt
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Old 02-10-2015, 11:38 PM   #2
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Late Model A if the inside drum is 11 inches 32 if its 12 inches. These are the cast iron drums. The hubs are part of the drum. The studs were swedged in place. These are not straight forward to replace. I would suggest asking on the Model A forum. Because of how these drum/hubs are made I would suggest letting someone that has had some experience with this type hub do the work. There would be some specialized tools needed.
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Old 02-11-2015, 12:03 AM   #3
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Looks like a model T axle with early V8 (circa 1934) brake drum hub, the V8 guys (at https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=4) will know for sure how to replace those.
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Old 02-11-2015, 12:18 AM   #4
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It looks to be a model A or later wheel.You will have to remove it from car,and properly support it so the old stud can be pressed out.Then press in your longer one.Good luck.
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more info to help ID your drum;
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=161125
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There is a hollow drill you must use to remove the swedged portion of the stud before pressing them out. Most suppliers have them.
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Old 02-11-2015, 02:49 PM   #7
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Default Re: Help with this wheel stud?

I hit it with press and it popped out, didn't drill anything? What suprised me is that it wasn't knurled?

Caliper says .62 shoulder dia. .40 shoulder length. Currently .750 of 1/2-20 showing, need 1.25".

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Old 02-11-2015, 04:06 PM   #8
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I hit it with press and it popped out, didn't drill anything? What suprised me is that it wasn't knurled?

Caliper says .62 shoulder dia. .40 shoulder length. Currently .750 of 1/2-20 showing, need 1.25".

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That is great, now I see it has .400 shoulder length and doesn't need to be swedged. Jim.T.
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Old 02-11-2015, 07:02 PM   #9
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I was on a live chat with dorman an hour ago. they don't have any wheel studs that are smooth with that small of dia.

So what are people using? Knurled? And if yes what size dia knurled? I'm assuming I can't be the first guy to replace a wheel stud in one of these.

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Old 02-11-2015, 07:50 PM   #10
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You NEED to post this question on the Model A or early V8 forum. There should be someone to give you the correct info. Model T's didn't have front brakes.
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Old 02-11-2015, 09:34 PM   #11
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Those drums/hubs are late 1931 model A if they are 11" ID. They are 1932-1934 Ford if they are 12" ID.

All 1928-1948 Ford drums, including these, use swedge in studs (not knurled). These must be swedged in (not pressed in). Since you pressed them out, you may have damaged (bent) the hub. None are available (swedge type) with long threads like you want, as I assume you are wanting to install thick wheels.

Your choices are to use a different drum, or find a longer knurled stud that will work. I know of none, and have been asked this numerous times to guys wanting to install thick wheels.

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Old 03-01-2015, 12:00 AM   #12
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It a 12' 32 to 3 4 type .No swaging required .they are a press fit with a flat on one side that locates to stop it turning ,its a common stud and can be knocked out ,try Macs, Dennis carpenter.
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