Rebuilding stromberg 97

[Macdozer]

Thanks for all the replies I got the pin out. You have to be really careful which side you hit the pin from. This one was very hard to tell which end was smaller. Used a small punch and Blocked it well, came out no problem.
Now I'm thinking that I'll sand blast the base and soda blast the top. Is soda blasting the best way to clean the top ?


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[FrankWest]

Originally Posted by Macdozer

Trying to rebuild my first 97

Looks like the "ball" on the end of the choke lever assembly has been broken off.



Where can I get a new choke lever assembly?
and what is the process for removing the lower shaft to replace the assembly?

Get a copy of Vern Tardel's "Let Me Help You Series" Booklet number 7
Stromberg 97 Carburetor Service and Repair.
Full of Pictures and exactly what to look for in rebuilding.
I would have been lost without this get little book.
Cost approx 15$ work 100$ to me for all the info and tips.

[Karl]

My advice is send it to Uncle Max or one of the others who do rebuilds on this forum. Carbs are in my experience one of the most tricky things to rebuild right. They appear simple to rebuild and the books make it look all very simple but often the results from us novices aren't great. Send it to a specialist you won't regret it -Karl

[FrankWest]

You may be right because... One of the problems for a new re-builder..Is how do you know that you rebuilt it right.
Everything may seem to operate after you reassemble it but is everything finished properly.
A new re-builder is usually interested in learning about the Carb and feeling the pride of re-building it himself. It is an important learning experience for his interest in his new antique car hobby.
Realistically we can say that we should send everything out to be done by experts.
But what fun is that? Half of the fun of owning an antique car is learning about it and developing a sense of Pride about fixing the thing. It is not really just a matter of the increased expense.. But rather a sense of touching the past and feeling a connection with our antique car.

[Flathill]

Vern Tardel's booklet #7 Stromberg 97 repair says to mask off with duct tape all orifices and seal up the interior of the carburetor. Then put in a media blasting cabinet and use a soft abrasive material. "No Sand" ! Use the lightest blast setting.

[JM 35 Sedan]

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Originally Posted by FrankWest

You may be right because... One of the problems for a new re-builder..Is how do you know that you rebuilt it right.
Everything may seem to operate after you reassemble it but is everything finished properly.
A new re-builder is usually interested in learning about the Carb and feeling the pride of re-building it himself. It is an important learning experience for his interest in his new antique car hobby.
Realistically we can say that we should send everything out to be done by experts.
But what fun is that? Half of the fun of owning an antique car is learning about it and developing a sense of Pride about fixing the thing. It is not really just a matter of the increased expense.. But rather a sense of touching the past and feeling a connection with our antique car.

You are correct. 8 to 10 years ago I got the bug to rebuild all the Stromburg carburetor cores that I owned at that time. I had read quite a few posts here on rebuilding these. With the help of Uncle Max, Ken ct., and a couple other rebuilders who were posting on the Old Fordbarn owned by Shelly, I was able to rebuild eight 97's, two 48's, and one 81. Half of these are still in service today, the others are waiting to go on three of my cars now. I had one of the 97's develop a slight leak at one of the brass caps that provide access to jets. This was repaired using special material washer gaskets available from most all of the carb rebuilders who post here and on the EFV-8C/A website.

[HOTROD_WILLIE]

Originally Posted by JM 35 Sedan

You are correct. 8 to 10 years ago I got the bug to rebuild all the Stromburg carburetor cores that I owned at that time. I had read quite a few posts here on rebuilding these. With the help of Uncle Max, Ken ct., and a couple other rebuilders who were posting on the Old Fordbarn owned by Shelly, I was able to rebuild eight 97's, two 48's, and one 81. Half of these are still in service today, the others are waiting to go on three of my cars now. I had one of the 97's develop a slight leak at one of the brass caps that provide access to jets. This was repaired using special material washer gaskets available from most all of the carb rebuilders who post here and on the EFV-8C/A website.

I have heard a lot a good thing about Uncle Max. If I was going to get some to rebuild a carb it would be Uncle Max. Ken ct was kick off of Fordbarn years ago. Check the thread out https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=128602

[FrankWest]

Originally Posted by HOTROD_WILLIE

I have heard a lot a good thing about Uncle Max. If I was going to get some to rebuild a carb it would be Uncle Max. Ken ct was kick off of Fordbarn years ago. Check the thread out https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=128602

Uncle Max is the MAN!
I would have him rebuild mine if I have any problems with my own rebuild.

[JM 35 Sedan]

Originally Posted by HOTROD_WILLIE

I have heard a lot a good thing about Uncle Max. If I was going to get some to rebuild a carb it would be Uncle Max. Ken ct was kick off of Fordbarn years ago.

Willie, over on the EFV-8 C/A's website discussion forum you always say Ken is your good friend. Plus when I see Ken at the shows, he always tells me you call him quite often about wanting to buy things from him. Why do you always bad mouth him here and call him your friend over there? What's up with that?
I haven't seen you post on the V-8 Club's forum for some time now, are you still a member in good standing there? I know you were a big help to many members on that forum, so I am sure they would really appreciate having you back.

[HOTROD_WILLIE]

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Originally Posted by JM 35 Sedan

Willie, over on the EFV-8 C/A's website discussion forum you always say Ken is your good friend. Plus when I see Ken at the shows, he always tells me you call him quite often about wanting to buy things from him. Why do you always bad mouth him here and call him your friend over there? What's up with that?
I haven't seen you post on the V-8 Club's forum for some time now, are you still a member in good standing there? I know you were a big help to many members on that forum, so I am sure they would really appreciate having you back.

Thanks for your reply and concerns. I like to help people out. That why I would not recommend someone or business that would take advantage someone else. I have not post much because I been little under weather. Hope to see you soon.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=128602

[Macdozer]

Any one have a hard time getting a new power bypass valve fully seated ?

The new one I got with my rebuild kit stops about 3 turns in. Should I re-use the old one ?

Below old one on the left. To the right is the new bypass valve.






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[JM 35 Sedan]

Where did you get your rebuild kit? The threads don't look like they are cut correctly to me. Plus other features look incorrect as well. Looks like a poor quality part to me.

[Macdozer]

I got it from vintage speed.

[uncle max]

Originally Posted by Macdozer

I got it from vintage speed.

If you compare the difference in both of the springs' action in the two powervalves, you'll notice that Vintage Speed's is more like a chassis spring.

[Macdozer]

I was wondering why they were so different something does not seem right . Looks like I will probably get another "new" one.

[JM 35 Sedan]

Originally Posted by Macdozer

I was wondering why they were so different something does not seem right . Looks like I will probably get another "new" one.

Uncle Max will get quality parts to you. Never had any problems with any Stromberg parts I have bought from him, including powervalves.

[FrankWest]

Originally Posted by JM 35 Sedan

Uncle Max will get quality parts to you. Never had any problems with any Stromberg parts I have bought from him, including powervalves.

Don't change parts unless you have too. The threads look very bad on the replacement part... There is so much junk being made out there stuff from India and China that is real crap... See if you can get a NOS part of at least buy from The official stromberg site..b ut I'm not sure if they have good parts either.

If I have these problems during my rebuild I will as Uncle max for good old authenticate parts..He collects hundredths of old carbs and has many many parts.

PS I remember buying a magnetic oil pan bolt from MAC's and could not screw the thing into my 1933 old pan...I throw the garage oil pan plug out.

Be cautious...With bad threads you will have leaks and things will never work right.

I remember the scene from the movie
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly where
Eli Wallach takes time at a gun shop to find the cylinder with the proper fit for a gun he about to steal! Funny

[HOTROD_WILLIE]

Originally Posted by JM 35 Sedan

Uncle Max will get quality parts to you. Never had any problems with any Stromberg parts I have bought from him, including powervalves.

I agree Uncle Max is a very good place to buy parts