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11-13-2023, 06:02 PM | #41 | |
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11-13-2023, 06:10 PM | #42 | |
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11-26-2023, 09:21 AM | #43 |
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Busy world around here lately, so I have not yet had a chance to investigate much. This looks more like a mid winter project for me. It will never be placed on the back burner though. I have received a lot of knowledge, help and gifts from friends here, yet I've still not formed a decision on going forward from here.
I have been spending a large amount of time working on my long, narrow 'machine shop' that runs down one side of my two bay garage. This had become full of stacked lumber and some surplus woodworking machinery and was unusable as a work place. I was recently informed of an 85 year old retired machinest who wanted to liquidate his home shop so I picked up some very nice equipment and am organizing this along with a collection of older equipment I have gleaned in the past 50 years in this hobby. I'm hoping this space will incorporate a 1950's-1970's look and remain somewhat tidy and organized. The next order of business is to insulate at least the ceiling, fix a few broken windows and install one of three woodstoves I have here. This new shop will be for mag and pressure testing my block collection, overhauling engines, rebuilding carbs and distributors and of course any transmission work I will be doing for my beloved wood wagon. I will be set up for grinding valves and seats with my Sioux and Van Dorn equipment and hope to soon be working in a well lit, warm and comfortable space. Last week found me kneeling on the dirty concrete at 11 at night and 31 degrees degrees trying to get a broken roll pin from the now completely dissasembled gear box from a 50 year old Delta metal cutting bandsaw I had just brought home. That job took 7 hours. When I pull that 3 speed, I want to set in on my new polished steel topped 2x6 work table, throw a couple more logs on the fire, and find out just what is going on in there. Two friends and I who were the recipients of a lot of his tooling, are hosting shop tours for our new 85 year old machinest friend today. The middle stop is here on Mt. Pickett with Ravin serving a hearty lunch and lots of hot coffee. (The other two shops are heated). Dang, only 3 hrs left to tidy up.....
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11-26-2023, 09:48 AM | #44 |
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All sounds good GB. I love playing with machines even though I am no machinist. What all will be in the new space for machinery ?
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11-26-2023, 09:56 AM | #45 |
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What an exciting addition! Stay warm.
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11-26-2023, 07:10 PM | #46 |
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And Ray, I can't get that wood stove hooked up fast enough. It's been chilly but extremely sunny.
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11-27-2023, 09:24 PM | #47 |
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GB, have you had a chance to think about getting your hands on a set of gears with the uncommon low 3.52 to 1 first ratio? I suspect one of the earlier posts referenced a possible set.
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11-27-2023, 11:29 PM | #48 |
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His price was very reasonable. Less than the price for all the parts to convert mine, but the shipping? I don't feel I'm in a position to properly decide my course of action at this time. I have had a lot on my plate this month. To pull the transmission out of the woodie right now I would be working in 30 degree temps at night. In a month or two I could work on it in my completed, warm and well lit workshop.
There's another thing I would like to investigate. If over the winter I were to build and install a 255 cu in 8BA, and this time have the flywheel surfaced and use new 'store-bought' engine mounts, would I be able to then back out of my shed, point up the hill and smoothly drive away with my current but repaired transmission? I plan on starting a thread where I mag and pressure test some blocks, measure some bores and see if I need 'off island' machine work. Crank is ground, and I have new bearings, valve assemblies and gaskets. Long stroke=torque+ smooth clutch+new engine mounts= no more judder, add a little clutch slip=clean getaway.... Right?
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11-29-2023, 06:44 PM | #49 |
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Your a man with a plan!!.......I’m gonna be hooking up a trailer furnace in my shop soon....I’ve had enough of that smelly kerosene salamander.....Mark
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11-30-2023, 12:32 AM | #50 |
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Today I bought one piece of 6" black stovepipe and an elbow. I have the stove and everything else I need including the metalbestos pipe and all fittings from a remodel I did. Gotta love those new yuppies getting rid of 'all that old junk'. Oh I also bought 750.00 worth of R-30 for the ceiling of a 14'x 28' room. Yikes. I'm not insulating the walls, too much stuff to move.....
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11-30-2023, 10:32 AM | #51 | |
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When I did my house remodel I was told that the majority of heat loss was from from the ceiling. After I rolled insulation between the rafters I rolled more cross wise over the exposed rafters since the R value of the un-insulated wood rafters is much less than the fiberglass that I covered them with.
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11-30-2023, 01:33 PM | #52 | |
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And Mark what is a trailer furnace? I can kinda imagine it. You simply tow it over to a friend's house before the insurance adjuster shows up? Edit: Ok, my wife just told me it's the kind of small furnace you'd have if you were living in a trailer....
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11-30-2023, 06:56 PM | #53 |
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“ Edit: Ok, my wife just told me it's the kind of small furnace you'd have if you were living in a trailer...“
That’s it .....they’re usually made by Miller....sits on a stand about 16” high with vents on three sides...the heat comes out the bottom because in a trailer the duct work is underneath... 20”x 28” by about 4’ high....great for a small shop.....Mark
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12-02-2023, 05:56 PM | #54 |
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Sorry for the mess.....the maid is on vacation!.....my shop is 30’x30’ so if I ever finish hooking it up, it should heat well....Mark
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12-02-2023, 07:02 PM | #55 |
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Anyone who saves broken off shovels (like me!) can't be all bad, the heck with the maid.
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12-02-2023, 07:04 PM | #56 |
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12-05-2023, 11:37 PM | #57 |
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Well, it's pretty obvious I have succeded in hijacking my own transmission thread into a shop renovation and shop heating thread. Not that I care, but I think I will break this up into two seperate threads as both situations are interesting to me, and I hope to others.
I have learned a lot about transmissions thanks to the generous gift of Mac's book and feedback on great this thread. I will reopen the subject after the holidays and then I will pull the tranny and inspect in the new heated shop. There's no telling which way I will go, but all the choices have merit. A lot will depend on if I can pull off that 255 engine this winter. If so, I may not need such a low first gear. Lots of choices to make and I'm deep into the shop build right now. My son came by yesterday and insulated the 10' ceiling. I got the stove set up and the pipe through the roof over the weekend. Since the photos I have fixed all broken windows and moved a bunch of stuff around for insulating. Here are some quick photos, excuse the mess as usual. My plan is to start a 'shop thread' in the near future as I get things set up in the heated 'mechanic shop'.
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12-05-2023, 11:53 PM | #58 |
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gigantic Baldor grinder, and a gigantic Wilton bullet vice...you are somebody GB!
Shop space looks great to me, I only have one comment, no such thing as too much insulation. In case you misread, no such thing as too much insulation. perhaps you misunderstood, no such thing as too much insulation. When I rebuilt after the fire, I bought used freezer panels. Cheap, 9x4, sliced them up to fit between the studs, sealed all edges with spray foam in the can. 5 1/2" thick, shop has never been below about 49-50 even with no heat while I am out of town here at the north pole! Carry on. |
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Also, I have the same delta band saw. Love that old equipment.
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