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Ggmac · 06-21-2020, 07:11 PM

Just curious . How much oil did you install and whats your oil pressure?

51 MERC-CT · 06-21-2020, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SHIKY

Finally downloaded these piks where oil is flowing from

Does your intake manifold have and make any use of these two holes if present?
If not then I suspect you have crankcase ventilation issues.

Mart · 06-22-2020, 03:11 AM

The plumbing looks right to me, in at the bottom and out the side. the return to the oil filler stand is not ideal as blowby can pick up the returning oil and blow it out the breather.

So where EXACTLY do you think the oil is coming from?

Does your oil pan have the small triangular protrusion just behind the crank pulley?

Looking again I see the fitting is below the fuel pump stand. That might be ok.

Does your fuel pump/oil fill stand have all the baffles in place below, including the inner tubular part?

If you take off the oil feed line, and the fittings, (prepare for spillage) and examine the fittings, one of them (preferably the one at the engine end) should have a restrictor. It should be in the region of 60 thou, 1/16", 1.5mm or thereabouts.

If you don't have a restrictor, find something suitable, knock it in there and drill it 1/16".

As you describe yourself as no mechanic, it is difficult to offer advice as owning and repairing a car of this type does require some level of mechanical understanding.

Mart.

34PKUP · 06-22-2020, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mart

The plumbing looks right to me, in at the bottom and out the side. the return to the oil filler stand is not ideal as blowby can pick up the returning oil and blow it out the breather.

So where EXACTLY do you think the oil is coming from?

Does your oil pan have the small triangular protrusion just behind the crank pulley?

Looking again I see the fitting is below the fuel pump stand. That might be ok.

Does your fuel pump/oil fill stand have all the baffles in place below, including the inner tubular part?

If you take off the oil feed line, and the fittings, (prepare for spillage) and examine the fittings, one of them (preferably the one at the engine end) should have a restrictor. It should be in the region of 60 thou, 1/16", 1.5mm or thereabouts.

If you don't have a restrictor, find something suitable, knock it in there and drill it 1/16".

As you describe yourself as no mechanic, it is difficult to offer advice as owning and repairing a car of this type does require some level of mechanical understanding.

Mart.

This is an 8BA engine which has a different breathing system. There is not any triangular protrusion/vent in that location on an 8BA configuration.

The restrictor hole is built into the filter housing and there is not any need for any restictor fittings.

flatheadmurre · 06-22-2020, 05:32 AM

Get the correct lid seal for the oilfilter housing...$1.99 from speedway motors.
Reroute the oilreturn down to the side of the block where it should be.
Putting 59AB intake on an 8BA block gives you breathing issues...then sticking oilreturn into breather...pumping air in and out the breather tube while pooring oil into the airstream...
The above should calm things down a bit hopefully.

51 MERC-CT · 06-22-2020, 05:57 AM

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Might not make a difference but have to agree with moving the oil return line to the drivers side port on the block, where it belongs.

SHIKY · 06-22-2020, 08:16 AM

5 quarts

SHIKY · 06-22-2020, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by flatheadmurre

Get the correct lid seal for the oilfilter housing...$1.99 from speedway motors.
Reroute the oilreturn down to the side of the block where it should be.
Putting 59AB intake on an 8BA block gives you breathing issues...then sticking oilreturn into breather...pumping air in and out the breather tube while pooring oil into the airstream...
The above should calm things down a bit hopefully.

i will take more piks of intake today maybe you can tell me if it is a 59ab intake i have thanks for now

SHIKY · 06-22-2020, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Ggmac

Just curious . How much oil did you install and whats your oil pressure?

5 quarts but my dipstick fas an adjustment on it,if i insert something else in there just to check how much oil it should take whereabouts on the oil pan should oil be at half way maybe.

SHIKY · 06-22-2020, 08:35 AM

I thank all you guys for trying to help, this roadster is beautiful and even if i am not driving it i am still admiring it in the garage.If after i check the things you guys are telling me and don't figure it out i will try and find a mechanic that has knowledge on these engines and there is not many around in this area over the border.thanks again

SHIKY · 06-22-2020, 10:39 AM

hey guys just wondering if i pull the oil filter out of the cannister and leave it out would that help release pressure just asking

JWL · 06-22-2020, 11:03 AM

If the fuelpump pushrod bushing is not plugged there can be mucho oil splashed up on the breather.

flatheadmurre · 06-22-2020, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SHIKY

hey guys just wondering if i pull the oil filter out of the cannister and leave it out would that help release pressure just asking

If the differentail pressure of the filter is the issue it´s badly clogged up and needs a change asap...
Take the return hose of and check the size of the hole into the fuel stand and the holes in the fittings.
Any holes much less then the size of the tube and that may be the issue...

SHIKY · 06-22-2020, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ggmac

Just curious . How much oil did you install and whats your oil pressure?

5 quarts

JSeery · 06-22-2020, 02:30 PM

Well, it is a by-pass system. Now you need to see if you can verify where the oil is leaking from. You could try removing the filter just to see if it makes any difference. Guess it is possible it is too fine of a micron rating to allow good oil flow. If the outlet passages are all larger than the inlet restrictor there should not be much pressure build up in the canister.

You can get a lot of blow by up that breather tube. One earlier version of the by-pass filter plumbed the return into the same location you are using. Because of the blow by issues the return was moved to the front timing cover. And then later to the oil pan.

SHIKY · 06-22-2020, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ggmac

Just curious . How much oil did you install and whats your oil pressure?

5 quarts were put in and oil pressure is at 45 idling at 800 rpm

Ggmac · 06-22-2020, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHIKY

5 quarts were put in and oil pressure is at 45 idling at 800 rpm

Thanks . I had an idea that maybe too much oil but not the case .

SHIKY · 06-23-2020, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 51 MERC-CT

You have what is commonly known as a bypass 'beehive' replacement oil filter.
Speedway motors sells them and replacement gaskets.
The following links will give some information on the operation of the filter.

https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Repla...ter,24669.html

https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Offen...ter,25041.html

Hi is the spring on this beehive suppose to be under or ontop of filter do you know thanks

JSeery · 06-23-2020, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SHIKY

Hi is the spring on this beehive suppose to be under or ontop of filter do you know thanks

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06-21-2020, 07:11 PM	#21
Ggmac Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Lake worth Florida Posts: 1,375	Re: flathead head engine leak Help Just curious . How much oil did you install and whats your oil pressure?

06-22-2020, 03:11 AM	#23
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 9,084	Re: flathead head engine leak Help The plumbing looks right to me, in at the bottom and out the side. the return to the oil filler stand is not ideal as blowby can pick up the returning oil and blow it out the breather. So where EXACTLY do you think the oil is coming from? Does your oil pan have the small triangular protrusion just behind the crank pulley? Looking again I see the fitting is below the fuel pump stand. That might be ok. Does your fuel pump/oil fill stand have all the baffles in place below, including the inner tubular part? If you take off the oil feed line, and the fittings, (prepare for spillage) and examine the fittings, one of them (preferably the one at the engine end) should have a restrictor. It should be in the region of 60 thou, 1/16", 1.5mm or thereabouts. If you don't have a restrictor, find something suitable, knock it in there and drill it 1/16". As you describe yourself as no mechanic, it is difficult to offer advice as owning and repairing a car of this type does require some level of mechanical understanding. Mart. Last edited by Mart; 06-22-2020 at 03:18 AM.

06-22-2020, 05:32 AM	#25
flatheadmurre Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,045	Re: flathead head engine leak Help Get the correct lid seal for the oilfilter housing...$1.99 from speedway motors. Reroute the oilreturn down to the side of the block where it should be. Putting 59AB intake on an 8BA block gives you breathing issues...then sticking oilreturn into breather...pumping air in and out the breather tube while pooring oil into the airstream... The above should calm things down a bit hopefully.

06-22-2020, 05:57 AM	#26
51 MERC-CT Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: East Hartford, Ct Posts: 5,898	Re: flathead head engine leak Help Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Might not make a difference but have to agree with moving the oil return line to the drivers side port on the block, where it belongs. __________________ DON'T RECALL DOING SOMETHING FOR MYSELF BASED ON SOMEONE ELSE'S LIKES OR DISLIKES

06-22-2020, 08:16 AM	#27
SHIKY Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 18	Re: flathead head engine leak Help 5 quarts

06-22-2020, 08:35 AM	#30
SHIKY Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 18	Re: flathead head engine leak Help I thank all you guys for trying to help, this roadster is beautiful and even if i am not driving it i am still admiring it in the garage.If after i check the things you guys are telling me and don't figure it out i will try and find a mechanic that has knowledge on these engines and there is not many around in this area over the border.thanks again

06-22-2020, 10:39 AM	#31
SHIKY Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 18	Re: flathead head engine leak Help hey guys just wondering if i pull the oil filter out of the cannister and leave it out would that help release pressure just asking

06-22-2020, 11:03 AM	#32
JWL Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fitzgerald, Georgia Posts: 2,204	Re: flathead head engine leak Help If the fuelpump pushrod bushing is not plugged there can be mucho oil splashed up on the breather.

06-22-2020, 02:30 PM	#35
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: flathead head engine leak Help Well, it is a by-pass system. Now you need to see if you can verify where the oil is leaking from. You could try removing the filter just to see if it makes any difference. Guess it is possible it is too fine of a micron rating to allow good oil flow. If the outlet passages are all larger than the inlet restrictor there should not be much pressure build up in the canister. You can get a lot of blow by up that breather tube. One earlier version of the by-pass filter plumbed the return into the same location you are using. Because of the blow by issues the return was moved to the front timing cover. And then later to the oil pan.