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MikeTaylor · 11-15-2014, 11:11 AM

Began with the left head and, lo & behold, a relieved block! Oops - this is going to going to put a crimp in my CR projections. Oh well, onward & upward they say. Got the other head and valves out after a lot of prying & cussin' then called it a day. Woke up the next morning to a multitude of 72 year old muscles screaming, "What the hell were you thinking yesterday."

After a hot shower, some serious stretching and 3 cups of java, it was back to the shop. The bottom end was a lot easier and disclosed the reason for 50 miles to a qt. of oil, shot rings, and no oil pressure, shot cam bushings. Nothing unexpected. Loaded it up in the pickup for a trip to the machine shop for a bath and magnafluxing (fingers crossed)

If all goes well, next to a different shop for sonic testing (fingers crossed again) and then Rumbleseat's (RIP buddy) water passages rust removal treatments. (UUG)

Karl Wolf · 11-15-2014, 11:47 AM

Pressure test it also, magnaflux does not find every consideration...

Karl

JM 35 Sedan · 11-15-2014, 12:00 PM

Sounds like fun,...gitter done....

. What's this engine going in?

Russ/40 · 11-15-2014, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl Wolf

Pressure test it also, magnaflux does not find every consideration...

Karl

X2 here. Been there done that mistake. Never again.

supereal · 11-15-2014, 04:46 PM

Relieving an engine block can produce high oil consumption if not properly done. Last year, a customer brought in a very nice '57 T-Bird that would hardly run. He bought it via the Internet, sight unseen. When we got into the engine, and pulled the heads, we found some idiot had relieved the block so far that the top piston ring was exposed. The only remedy was a new engine. He was furious, but had no recourse to the seller in California.

JSeery · 11-15-2014, 05:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by supereal

Relieving an engine block can produce high oil consumption if not properly done. Last year, a customer brought in a very nice '57 T-Bird that would hardly run. He bought it via the Internet, sight unseen. When we got into the engine, and pulled the heads, we found some idiot had relieved the block so far that the top piston ring was exposed. The only remedy was a new engine. He was furious, but had no recourse to the seller in California.

Why would you relive an OHV engine, don't think I have ever seen that? What engine, a 312?

flatjack9 · 11-15-2014, 05:40 PM

Not why, but how?

V8COOPMAN · 11-15-2014, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supereal

Relieving an engine block can produce high oil consumption if not properly done. Last year, a customer brought in a very nice '57 T-Bird that would hardly run. He bought it via the Internet, sight unseen. When we got into the engine, and pulled the heads, we found some idiot had relieved the block so far that the top piston ring was exposed. The only remedy was a new engine. He was furious, but had no recourse to the seller in California.

Supereal........Surely you must have taken pictures of that RELIEVED 1957 T-bird block to post here for those of us scratchin' our butts, trying to picture how that's possible. DD

Binx · 11-15-2014, 06:20 PM

Well, unless supereal means the block was decked far enough to expose the ring then.....well, I don't get it.

......In other news, MikeTaylor, If a high compression, high low-end torque motor is your plan then don't compromise. Consider selling your block magged and pressure tested with receipts at a premium with a money-back guarantee to the seller. There are other blocks out there that will satisfy your planned build.

Lonnie

MikeTaylor · 11-15-2014, 07:09 PM

JM 35 - Goes in a '48 Tudor.
Supereal - This is a factory relief. From what I've read, it was done to truck engines to help keep blocks from cracking in high stress usage.
Binx - For what I'm planning, this should be fine. 8.0-8.5 CR is easily workable with AL heads and 125-135 HP should keep it rolling nicely on the interstates with a Mitchell OD to keep the RPM's down where the natural torque is.

Thanks all for your comments - keep em coming, they're always welcomed!

11-15-2014, 11:11 AM	#1
MikeTaylor Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: southeastern South Dakota Posts: 7	59A Engine disassembly surprise! Began with the left head and, lo & behold, a relieved block! Oops - this is going to going to put a crimp in my CR projections. Oh well, onward & upward they say. Got the other head and valves out after a lot of prying & cussin' then called it a day. Woke up the next morning to a multitude of 72 year old muscles screaming, "What the hell were you thinking yesterday." After a hot shower, some serious stretching and 3 cups of java, it was back to the shop. The bottom end was a lot easier and disclosed the reason for 50 miles to a qt. of oil, shot rings, and no oil pressure, shot cam bushings. Nothing unexpected. Loaded it up in the pickup for a trip to the machine shop for a bath and magnafluxing (fingers crossed) If all goes well, next to a different shop for sonic testing (fingers crossed again) and then Rumbleseat's (RIP buddy) water passages rust removal treatments. (UUG)

11-15-2014, 11:47 AM	#2
Karl Wolf Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mill Valley,Ca. Posts: 1,509	Re: 59A Engine disassembly surprise! Pressure test it also, magnaflux does not find every consideration... Karl

11-15-2014, 12:00 PM	#3
JM 35 Sedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Near Rising Sun, Maryland Posts: 10,862	Re: 59A Engine disassembly surprise! Sounds like fun,...gitter done..... What's this engine going in? __________________ *John* *"Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts". Albert Einstein*

11-15-2014, 04:46 PM	#5
supereal Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,634	Re: 59A Engine disassembly surprise! Relieving an engine block can produce high oil consumption if not properly done. Last year, a customer brought in a very nice '57 T-Bird that would hardly run. He bought it via the Internet, sight unseen. When we got into the engine, and pulled the heads, we found some idiot had relieved the block so far that the top piston ring was exposed. The only remedy was a new engine. He was furious, but had no recourse to the seller in California.

11-15-2014, 05:40 PM	#7
flatjack9 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oshkosh, Wi Posts: 4,546	Re: 59A Engine disassembly surprise! Not why, but how?

11-15-2014, 06:20 PM	#9
Binx Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Gloucester VA Posts: 1,042	Re: 59A Engine disassembly surprise! Well, unless supereal means the block was decked far enough to expose the ring then.....well, I don't get it. ......In other news, MikeTaylor, If a high compression, high low-end torque motor is your plan then don't compromise. Consider selling your block magged and pressure tested with receipts at a premium with a money-back guarantee to the seller. There are other blocks out there that will satisfy your planned build. Lonnie

11-15-2014, 07:09 PM	#10
MikeTaylor Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: southeastern South Dakota Posts: 7	Re: 59A Engine disassembly surprise! JM 35 - Goes in a '48 Tudor. Supereal - This is a factory relief. From what I've read, it was done to truck engines to help keep blocks from cracking in high stress usage. Binx - For what I'm planning, this should be fine. 8.0-8.5 CR is easily workable with AL heads and 125-135 HP should keep it rolling nicely on the interstates with a Mitchell OD to keep the RPM's down where the natural torque is. Thanks all for your comments - keep em coming, they're always welcomed!