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Arthur in AK · 09-03-2012, 02:29 AM

I want to explore the possibly hidden treasures that lie under the front seat of my early Briggs Town Sedan. I've owned the car for twenty years, and have never had a peek at what's under there.

I have no trouble lifting and removing the rear seat bottom and back, but I am stumped at how this is achieved with the front seat.

A fellow club member has a very similar front seat on his '31 Murray Town Sedan, and he just sticks his hand into the crevice between the back and bottom cushions, and pulls the bottom cushion up and out.

I've tried this on my Briggs, but it doesn't seem to want to budge at all. I can reach 5-6 inches inside between the cushions until I'm finally able to grab around the edge of the bottom cushion, but again, it doesn't seem to want to pull out. I don't want to rip or break anything.

Any Briggs owners with advice would be appreciated.

BTW, this seat has NO visible adjuster as does my friend's Murray. Is that normal?

BILL WILLIAMSON · 09-03-2012, 04:24 AM

Arthur,
I only know coupe stuff, but if you were closer, we'd get that dude out somehow!!
I found a DIAMOND watch under the seat of a '53 Packard that I bought once! The previous owner said it wasn't his & let me keep it!! Sold it for $1,500.00!!! Bet he thought it had fake diamonds. Bill W. (Let us know what you find) as the only excitement here is an itch in the middle of my back that I can't reach!!!!

Aerocraft · 09-03-2012, 05:38 AM

The seat bottom is simply indexed into the bottom frame. Grab it underneath the front center and lift it up. Unless it has been glued down it should come up and out.

The 60A and B "blindbacks" do not have an adjustable front seat.

Gar Williams

dumb person · 09-03-2012, 01:40 PM

Thankyou for posting pictures of the seat, very helpful. But may i ask for pictures of the back and top of the front seat?

Arthur in AK · 09-03-2012, 02:32 PM

Aerocraft:

The car is a 155-B.

Dumb Guy:

Not sure why you need them, but here they are:

Also, I've provided a couple of photos of the bottom. as well.

-Rich

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

Arthur,
I only know coupe stuff, but if you were closer, we'd get that dude out somehow!!
I found a DIAMOND watch under the seat of a '53 Packard that I bought once! The previous owner said it wasn't his & let me keep it!! Sold it for $1,500.00!!! Bet he thought it had fake diamonds. Bill W. (Let us know what you find) as the only excitement here is an itch in the middle of my back that I can't reach!!!!

That was some find Bill $1,500 Good for you

I bet the previous owner didn't want his wife to know who he had in that Packard !!!

An itch you can't reach !! Thats like a pain that a pill wont cure!!
John Cochran

dumb person · 09-04-2012, 01:37 AM

Those pictures were helpful, thankyou.

ba49 · 09-04-2012, 07:02 AM

I have a 30Briggs Town Car. My seat lifts from the front. There are 2 holes (left and right) that that a stud slips into. I will say you really have to push backward and down to get it back in. Yours may just be very tight.
Bill

Aerocraft · 09-04-2012, 08:41 AM

Arthur: Here is a picture of the front seat on my '29 155B. I have lifted the front seat up so that you can see the seat cushion support and the two "pins" used to locate the cushion. You can also see the seat adjustment mechanism. Gar Williams

Arthur in AK · 09-04-2012, 02:10 PM

Dumb Guy:

Glad I could be of service ???

Bill & Gar:

VERY helpful! Thanks for the picture! I do not have the large adjustment knob (or any adjustment knob, for that matter). But knowing what it looks like under the cushion should be helpful.

I'll tackle the job tonight after work and let you know what I come up with.

-Rich

Bruce Lancaster · 09-04-2012, 02:23 PM

You'll probably find a complete set of dealer brochures, a NOS Quail, clock, and lighter, plus the original tool kit unopened. Or maybe 25 pounds of mouse poop.

Aerocraft · 09-04-2012, 08:11 PM

Bill & Gar:

VERY helpful! Thanks for the picture! I do not have the large adjustment knob (or any adjustment knob, for that matter). But knowing what it looks like under the cushion should be helpful.

I'll tackle the job tonight after work and let you know what I come up with.

-Rich[/QUOTE]

Please feel free to ask for any pictures. My 155B is an unrestored daily runner and it's easy to open it up for detail shots. I also have a restored 155A if anyone needs pictures.

Gar Williams ([email protected])

09-03-2012, 04:24 AM	#2
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Revealing possibly hidden treasure! Arthur, I only know coupe stuff, but if you were closer, we'd get that dude out somehow!! I found a DIAMOND watch under the seat of a '53 Packard that I bought once! The previous owner said it wasn't his & let me keep it!! Sold it for $1,500.00!!! Bet he thought it had fake diamonds. Bill W. (Let us know what you find) as the only excitement here is an itch in the middle of my back that I can't reach!!!! __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

09-03-2012, 05:38 AM	#3
Aerocraft Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 1,387	Re: Revealing possibly hidden treasure! The seat bottom is simply indexed into the bottom frame. Grab it underneath the front center and lift it up. Unless it has been glued down it should come up and out. The 60A and B "blindbacks" do not have an adjustable front seat. Gar Williams Last edited by Aerocraft; 09-03-2012 at 05:54 AM.

09-03-2012, 01:40 PM	#4
dumb person Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: South pacific island Posts: 1,724	Re: Revealing possibly hidden treasure! Thankyou for posting pictures of the seat, very helpful. But may i ask for pictures of the back and top of the front seat?

09-04-2012, 01:37 AM	#7
dumb person Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: South pacific island Posts: 1,724	Re: Revealing possibly hidden treasure! Those pictures were helpful, thankyou.

09-04-2012, 07:02 AM	#8
ba49 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Sheffield Lake, Ohio Posts: 137	Re: Revealing possibly hidden treasure! I have a 30Briggs Town Car. My seat lifts from the front. There are 2 holes (left and right) that that a stud slips into. I will say you really have to push backward and down to get it back in. Yours may just be very tight. Bill

09-04-2012, 02:10 PM	#10
Arthur in AK Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 18	Re: Revealing possibly hidden treasure! Dumb Guy: Glad I could be of service ??? Bill & Gar: VERY helpful! Thanks for the picture! I do not have the large adjustment knob (or any adjustment knob, for that matter). But knowing what it looks like under the cushion should be helpful. I'll tackle the job tonight after work and let you know what I come up with. -Rich

09-04-2012, 02:23 PM	#11
Bruce Lancaster Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Madison, NJ Posts: 5,230	Re: Revealing possibly hidden treasure! You'll probably find a complete set of dealer brochures, a NOS Quail, clock, and lighter, plus the original tool kit unopened. Or maybe 25 pounds of mouse poop.

09-04-2012, 08:11 PM	#12
Aerocraft Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 1,387	Re: Revealing possibly hidden treasure! Bill & Gar: VERY helpful! Thanks for the picture! I do not have the large adjustment knob (or any adjustment knob, for that matter). But knowing what it looks like under the cushion should be helpful. I'll tackle the job tonight after work and let you know what I come up with. -Rich[/QUOTE] Please feel free to ask for any pictures. My 155B is an unrestored daily runner and it's easy to open it up for detail shots. I also have a restored 155A if anyone needs pictures. Gar Williams ([email protected])