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07-18-2012, 02:49 PM | #1 |
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Choke rod question.
Hi All, recently acquired a decent 1930 fordor. It has been sitting a long long time. I think it qualifies as a survivor. It's mostly original, and untouched. It runs and drives, but needs some loving. It has a tilly carb on it, and the choke rod is not hooked up. I can't figure out how to hook this thing up. Maybe I'm missing a part or something ? Could someone explain ? Maybe post a picture ?
2 people to start it is getting old. Thanks in advance. |
07-18-2012, 03:16 PM | #2 |
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Re: Choke rod question.
Orgo , your best bet is to get a parts book from Bratton's and buy what you see and need...A well done parts book . you have a rod , a spring , a chock rod sleeve , 3 grommets [ 1 on the gas tank , the firewall has 1 metal cup washer with a leather washer . At the end of the chock rod on the carb. you need carb. adj. needle driver and air shutter lever. Or from SNYDER'S parts you can buy your parts...
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07-18-2012, 04:15 PM | #3 |
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Re: Choke rod question.
I have all that stuff, but can't for the life of me figure out how to connect the choke rod to the needle driver ? I could come up with something to make it work, but would like to do it the proper way.
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07-18-2012, 04:32 PM | #4 |
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Re: Choke rod question.
There's a notch in the end of the choke rod and a corresponding one on the carb, just put then together and
slide the sleeve down to hold them together. Bob |
07-18-2012, 05:15 PM | #5 |
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Re: Choke rod question.
Starting inside the cab, slide the choke rod through the tank bracket, which should have a rubber grommet, then through the firewall. Now go under the hood and install the leather washer, then the thin steel washer against the leather, then the spring, then the steel tube with the flare against the spring. Push the steel tube up to compress the spring while you hook the end of the choke rod to the carb, then let the spring push the tube down to keep the ends locked together. Now you should be able to pull for choke and turn for gas mixture.
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07-18-2012, 05:34 PM | #6 |
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07-18-2012, 06:13 PM | #7 |
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Re: Choke rod question.
Maybe the spring needs to be stretched for more tension?? Bill W.
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07-18-2012, 06:50 PM | #8 |
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Re: Choke rod question.
How does it come apart ?? Even Mother Nature[gravity] would probably keep the sleeve in place.. But, its like Tom said, spring tension will keep the sleeve over the rod and needle.. Maybe if you post a picture,, we could see what is happening..
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07-19-2012, 11:06 AM | #9 |
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Re: Choke rod question.
I didn't have a chance to look at it last night. Will be on it tonight though. I will see if I can make it work. If not, I will post a pic.
Thanks for the help so far ! I've had lots of old cars, but this is my first model a. Stay tuned for many more questions! |
07-19-2012, 11:22 AM | #10 |
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Re: Choke rod question.
"A picture is worth a thousand words," and we're bumping up around 600 here. Please post a photo of your carburetor (without the choke rod "hooked up") so we can see what you're dealing with.
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07-19-2012, 11:40 PM | #11 |
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Re: Choke rod question.
Ok, here is what I have. I was thinking something might be assembled wrong on this. Works fine at first, but comes apart.
Please disregard the fuel line. That's how I got it. |
07-20-2012, 04:50 AM | #12 |
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Re: Choke rod question.
Why is there a double choke driver?
Remove the top one and slide the choke rod down and couple it to the driver on the carb. |
07-20-2012, 09:14 AM | #13 |
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Re: Choke rod question.
OK, now it seems to make sense.. Like Tom mentioned, it looks as though there are 2 choke drivers.. Remove the whole sleeve assembly.. One the end of the choke rod you will see a notch and on the end of the carburetor needle you will see a similar notch.. The spring then holds down pressure on the sleeve which slides over both choke rod and adjustment needle once the notches and lugs are connected..
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07-20-2012, 10:16 AM | #14 |
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Re: Choke rod question.
It appears (in the last/bottom photo) that the upper choke driver may have been pinned to the choke/GAV rod. Has the rod been modified? How far into the cab (past the gas tank) does your rod extend?
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07-20-2012, 10:26 AM | #15 |
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Re: Choke rod question.
The second choke driver is actually someones half ass attempt at running an oil pressure line into the cab.
I'm in the process of removing the gas tank for cleaning, and repair. So will need to take the whole works apart. I'll get some better pics of it then. |
07-20-2012, 10:56 AM | #16 |
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Re: Choke rod question.
There not talking about the oil line. You have two needle drivers on your choke.
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07-20-2012, 11:51 AM | #17 |
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Re: Choke rod question.
Hmm, interesting. Now we're getting somewhere. Could someone post a pic of how it's supposed to look ?
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07-20-2012, 12:09 PM | #18 |
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Here is a picture from RockHillWill's web site.
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07-20-2012, 12:29 PM | #19 |
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Here's a couple of photos from my 1930 coupe; the upper photo shows the choke rod-to-choke/GAV connection with the sleeve "keeper" removed:
Carb detail 2.jpg Carb detail 1.jpg
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07-20-2012, 12:45 PM | #20 |
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Re: Choke rod question.
ok, make perfect sense now. thanks so much guys.
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