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wrndln · 01-04-2012, 09:56 PM

Does anyone have a good method to install a new patent plate on the firewall of a 28/29 with split rivets. I know it will take two people, one to press on the rivet head from the outside and one to installed it on the inside. The problem is getting to the split ends inside between the gas tank and the inside of the firewall. I am wonder what kind of tool would work best to bend the split ends over - just a regular screwdriver?
Rusty Nelson

1931 flamingo · 01-04-2012, 10:42 PM

Fine Point?? or driver. If driver, I would cut the rivit heads off and "glue" with silicone caulk the plate and rivits in appropiate place. JMO
Paul in CT

Milton · 01-04-2012, 10:57 PM

The proper rivet is the "nail-in" type. The rivet has an alignment shaft that is knurled at th top and that part drives into the rivet hole and holds the plate in place. One man operation.

Milton · 01-05-2012, 12:46 AM

My bad, I should have qualified my answer with 30-31.

dean from bozeman · 01-05-2012, 09:41 AM

Rusty, the Judging Standards say, 'All rivets were installed with the rivet head on the engine side of the firewall.' However, I have seen several totally original A's that have the split rivet heads on the inside of the firewall.

My rebelious side says "Be Unique!". My fine point side says, "Follow the JS!". Personally I believe that the important thing is that all 4 rivets face the same way.

Dean

CarlG · 01-05-2012, 11:51 AM

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b ramsey · 01-05-2012, 11:33 PM

i also would like to know the answer to the original question.....

Mike V. Florida · 01-06-2012, 12:43 AM

Maybe taking a cheapo long screwdriver and bending it into an L shape, sharpen the tip. Sliding up between the tank and firewall, place the slot in the rivet, pushing in from front and twisting the screwdriver to open the rivet

wrndln · 01-06-2012, 10:10 AM

Mike,
That sounds like an idea to try. I have four 28/29 A's, so if the tool works, I would have it for the next three A's I restore.
Thanks,
Rusty Nelson

01-04-2012, 09:56 PM	#1
wrndln Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lakeville, MN Posts: 5,297	Riveting the patent plate on firewall Does anyone have a good method to install a new patent plate on the firewall of a 28/29 with split rivets. I know it will take two people, one to press on the rivet head from the outside and one to installed it on the inside. The problem is getting to the split ends inside between the gas tank and the inside of the firewall. I am wonder what kind of tool would work best to bend the split ends over - just a regular screwdriver? Rusty Nelson

01-04-2012, 10:42 PM	#2
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,428	Re: Riveting the patent plate on firewall Fine Point?? or driver. If driver, I would cut the rivit heads off and "glue" with silicone caulk the plate and rivits in appropiate place. JMO Paul in CT

01-04-2012, 10:57 PM	#3
Milton Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 837	Re: Riveting the patent plate on firewall The proper rivet is the "nail-in" type. The rivet has an alignment shaft that is knurled at th top and that part drives into the rivet hole and holds the plate in place. One man operation.

01-05-2012, 12:46 AM	#4
Milton Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 837	Re: Riveting the patent plate on firewall My bad, I should have qualified my answer with 30-31.

01-05-2012, 09:41 AM	#5
dean from bozeman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bozeman, Montana Posts: 997	Re: Riveting the patent plate on firewall Rusty, the Judging Standards say, 'All rivets were installed with the rivet head on the engine side of the firewall.' However, I have seen several totally original A's that have the split rivet heads on the inside of the firewall. My rebelious side says "Be Unique!". My fine point side says, "Follow the JS!". Personally I believe that the important thing is that all 4 rivets face the same way. Dean

01-05-2012, 11:51 AM	#6
CarlG Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 9,192	Re: Riveting the patent plate on firewall Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Does anyone sell just the drive in type rivets?

01-05-2012, 11:33 PM	#8
b ramsey Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: ramona, ca. Posts: 58	Re: Riveting the patent plate on firewall i also would like to know the answer to the original question.....

01-06-2012, 12:43 AM	#9
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida between Sarasota and TampaSouth Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: Riveting the patent plate on firewall Maybe taking a cheapo long screwdriver and bending it into an L shape, sharpen the tip. Sliding up between the tank and firewall, place the slot in the rivet, pushing in from front and twisting the screwdriver to open the rivet __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

01-06-2012, 10:10 AM	#10
wrndln Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lakeville, MN Posts: 5,297	Re: Riveting the patent plate on firewall Mike, That sounds like an idea to try. I have four 28/29 A's, so if the tool works, I would have it for the next three A's I restore. Thanks, Rusty Nelson