|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
08-13-2011, 03:09 PM | #1 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 184
|
Am I asking for trouble
In the process of replacing my fan I was thinking about changing the 4 studs for the water pump to the new bolts that look original. They say you can remove the pump without removing the radiator. My big question is how hard is it to remove the four studs? Sometimes I hate to mess with something that isn't broke. What would you guys do? Thanks again Ron
|
08-13-2011, 03:28 PM | #2 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: OKC / Tonkawa, Ok.
Posts: 1,977
|
Re: Am I asking for trouble
Funny you should ask this question today. I just got through helping my buddy do this on a 1930 Sedan. 3 came out easy. 1 broke off and we are still working on getting it out.
__________________
Oklahoma City Model A Restorers Group. |
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|
08-13-2011, 05:24 PM | #3 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,854
|
Re: Am I asking for trouble
if it was me i would replace them with the origional, but for me it would probable break them all off! but that is just my luck
John |
08-13-2011, 06:25 PM | #4 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Camino, CA.
Posts: 3,086
|
Re: Am I asking for trouble
Keep the original studs, replace the fan with an aluminum 2 blade. The 2 blade fan allows you to remove the waterpump by removing the hood but without removing the radiator. Just pull the radiator forward, rotate the 2 blade so it's horizontal and the waterpump will come right out.
|
08-15-2011, 12:48 PM | #5 |
Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma
Posts: 63
|
Re: Am I asking for trouble
I replaced my 4 studs with the new bolts without any problems at all. I applied some liquid wrench on them and let it soak in for a few hours. The studs came out easily with vise grips.
|
08-15-2011, 01:18 PM | #6 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 1,461
|
Re: Am I asking for trouble
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
|
08-15-2011, 01:31 PM | #7 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 837
|
Re: Am I asking for trouble
"New bolts that look original"?
Whazzat? Picture or reference please. |
08-15-2011, 01:43 PM | #8 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: new britain,ct 06052
Posts: 9,397
|
Re: Am I asking for trouble
If you've got a snyder's catalog (or go on line=waterpump) pg A-127 ,right column, p/n A-8501-MBM 1928-31 $5.50 set. I have them but haven't installed yet.
Paul in CT |
08-15-2011, 01:45 PM | #9 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
Posts: 9,125
|
Re: Am I asking for trouble
Bolts that are machined to look like the original studs and nuts. Makes removal of the water pump much easier with the radiator on the car. Sold in sets of four. U.S.A. Snyder's Part # A-8501-MBM
|
08-15-2011, 02:13 PM | #10 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 837
|
Re: Am I asking for trouble
Good Lord, now I have seen it all!
That's enough to gag the average purist. I am a believer in "form and function". Do my eyes deceive me or is that an O-ring that I see? I do, however, believe the star locks are going a little to far. Oh well. |
08-15-2011, 04:06 PM | #11 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: South California
Posts: 6,189
|
Re: Am I asking for trouble
Well these have been available for some time!
And, if you ever have had to 'tear down' your radiator/hood/whatever else....just to get the B/O fan out...well it wouldn't take long to see where this 'little' invention is qenious. No O-ring..just some permatex/schmutchem seal as usual ! |
08-15-2011, 04:13 PM | #12 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Princeton, NJ
Posts: 965
|
Re: Am I asking for trouble
I was a cheapskate, and made my own by lok-titing (or krazy-gluing, I forget) nuts to the stock studs.
Doug
__________________
My '31 S/W sedan project:http://31ford.dougbraun.com My restoration diary: http://dougbraun.com/blog |
08-15-2011, 04:33 PM | #13 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 3,099
|
Re: Am I asking for trouble
Maybe it's just me, but this strikes me funny. I can see them having a problem creating raven finished studs in this manner. But then they ship them with Shakeproof washers instead of split lock washers? Did they make the batch too short to use proper lock washers? Yep, "lets make something that looks sort of original but lets throw something in so everyone can tell it's our product"!
__________________
http://www.abarnyard.com/ |
08-15-2011, 04:57 PM | #14 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 837
|
Re: Am I asking for trouble
Quote:
|
|
08-15-2011, 07:05 PM | #15 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Maryville,Tn
Posts: 304
|
Re: Am I asking for trouble
I just removed the old studs from my 30 coupe. Two on bottom came out easy but the two on top were tuff. Vicegrips were useless...i used 2 of the nuts that came off the stud...jammed one against the other and soaked the stud with lots of PB Blaster. It took a while but I got them. Used those new "fake" studs from Snyders.
|
08-15-2011, 09:55 PM | #16 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Washington Cty., ME or Flagler Cty., FL
Posts: 1,126
|
Re: Am I asking for trouble
Quote:
1. Take a flat washer that has a hole in it that matches the diameter of the broken stud. 2. Tac weld the flat washer to the end of the stud in a couple of places. 3. Weld a nut to the flat washer and then back the broken stud out with a box wrench. Good luck, Ed |
|
08-15-2011, 10:18 PM | #17 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Sugar Land, TX
Posts: 4,397
|
Re: Am I asking for trouble
Removing studs you have to be prepared to break one. Then?? You have to be prepared to get the broken one out.
|
08-16-2011, 12:17 AM | #18 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: ⓉⒺXⒶⓈ
Posts: 2,047
|
Re: Am I asking for trouble
Mine from brattons came with lock washers and no o rings.
They work great and have had them on three cars. No one has ever noticed them. I love them because they make life MUCH easier now that I'm an expert on water pump replacement. Knock on wood that I don't have to change another one on the side of the road.
__________________
-------------- Drive it like you know how to fix it! DMAFC / OILERS CC-MC |
08-16-2011, 07:00 AM | #19 |
BANNED
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Bucks County, PA
Posts: 11,454
|
Re: Am I asking for trouble
i have them on 2 cars with lockwashers and no orings also... i think they would even fool the fine point judges
|
08-16-2011, 09:09 AM | #20 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Lewisburg,PA
Posts: 938
|
Re: Am I asking for trouble
|
|
|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|