Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Model A (1928-31)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-07-2023, 11:08 AM   #1
klrh20frank
Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Garden Plain KS
Posts: 63
Default Light switch sticks

I'm not a experienced Model A mechanic,but offered to help a friend install an F100 steering wheel box in his 30 coupe. The steering went in very easy with the instructions provided. In plugging the light switch it was very hard to turn one way. after trying several times, with the switch handle on the steering wheel at the 6 o'clock position, the handle will move between 6 o'clock and 3 o'clock. When the handle on the steering wheel is at 6 o'clock, the spider is horizontal. Would appreciate any suggestions as to how this can be corrected.
Thanks .
Frank
klrh20frank is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2023, 11:15 AM   #2
cas3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beverly Kansas
Posts: 5,557
Default Re: Light switch sticks

The shaft where the spider slides on is square, so it can be rotated 1/4 turn to be vertical.
I often find the brass contacts on the switch plate stand up too proud of the flat plastic part, making it difficult to turn the lever on the steering wheel. I like to take a flat file and file the contacts down to be flush with the plastic. There are dimples in the contact so you can still feel where it needs to be for contact, but will move nice and smooth, no force required.
cas3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 04-10-2023, 12:55 PM   #3
klrh20frank
Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Garden Plain KS
Posts: 63
Default Re: Light switch sticks

Thanks for your response. Is the spider suposed to be vertical or horizontal?
klrh20frank is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2023, 01:00 PM   #4
JayJay
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 2,670
Default Re: Light switch sticks

Quote:
Originally Posted by klrh20frank View Post
Thanks for your response. Is the spider suposed to be vertical or horizontal?
vertical
__________________
JayJay
San Francisco Bay Area

------------------------
1930 Murray Town Sedan (under reconstruction)
1931 Briggs S/W Town Sedan

It isn't a defect, it's a feature!
JayJay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2023, 01:59 PM   #5
Oldgearz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Sagle, Idaho
Posts: 417
Default Re: Light switch sticks

If you want your lights to be off when the handle is a 6:00, then: With switch disconnected at bottom, set your light switch inside handle at 9:00. This makes it easier to get at the little C clip at the bottom. Block horn rod at steering wheel, and insert spider and C clip. Unblock horn rod, and move inside light switch to 6:00. The spider should now be vertical. Reassemble light switch. Sometimes the little C clip will fall back out during the reassembly, and that will cause the inside switch handle to be locked or not working right, as the little clip is laying inside the switch body.
Oldgearz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2023, 03:55 PM   #6
Oldgearz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Sagle, Idaho
Posts: 417
Default Re: Light switch sticks

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
I forgot to say: When you install the spider on the rod with your inside light switch handle at 9:00, the spider is installed in the horizontal position. Then when you move the light switch handle to 6:00, the spider will be vertical in its proper operating position.
Oldgearz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2023, 10:51 AM   #7
katy
Senior Member
 
katy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Red Deer, Alberta
Posts: 6,071
Default Re: Light switch sticks

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldgearz View Post
When you install the spider on the rod with your inside light switch handle at 9:00, the spider is installed in the horizontal position. Then when you move the light switch handle to 6:00, the spider will be vertical in its proper operating position.
Good tip, thanks.
__________________
If you don't hear a rumor by 10 AM, start one!.
Got my education out behind the barn!
katy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2023, 06:29 AM   #8
klrh20frank
Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Garden Plain KS
Posts: 63
Default Re: Light switch sticks

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm beginning to think the problem is the orientation of the spider. thanks again will try the next time we work on it.
klrh20frank is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2026, 09:51 PM   #9
Arthur1958
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Kansas, USA
Posts: 6
Default Re: Light switch sticks

If you are having trouble with the light switch turning too hard, don’t forget to look at the bail that holds the switch housing together. I installed an NOS Ford switch and harness but the existing bail was much too hard to snap into place and the control on the steering wheel turned too hard, too. The flat end of the bail was bent slightly inward (or upward) which might have been right for the previous switch body (which was missing) but pressed the new one together with too much force. I reshaped it and now it works right.
Arthur1958 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2026, 10:08 PM   #10
Joe K
Senior Member
 
Joe K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Cow Hampshire
Posts: 5,013
Default Re: Light switch sticks

Aluminum or steel tube on that control rod?

If steel then its probably original - and will fit within a Ford column shaft.

If aluminum, it might be too large in diameter to fit well in the Ford column shaft. Plus the aluminum tube has a "seam" which allows the aluminum to "spiral" whlle turning the switch element. Just another impediment to it working correctly.

Given your transfer to F-100 this may or may not be a problem - but worth giving some thought. Try removing the switch from the bottom and see if movement at the top makes a corresponding movement at the bottom.

Joe K
__________________
Shudda kept the horse.
Joe K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2026, 08:18 AM   #11
Bob Bidonde
Senior Member
 
Bob Bidonde's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 4,379
Default Re: Light switch sticks

This tip may help.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Light Switch – Smoothing Operation.jpg (73.1 KB, 19 views)
__________________
Bob Bidonde
Bob Bidonde is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:55 AM.