handbrake cable installation, how?

[hueyhoolihan]

i need to replace the part of the hand brake system that consists of the cable that runs from the left rear brake assembly to the right rear brake assembly. the rest of the hand brake system is working well.

my research, thus far, suggests that removal of the brake drum is necessary and that it is not trivial.

the present condition:

the car's (1941 ford convertible) had a recent (probably 10-15 years or less) body off restoration and the brakes, in general, work well. there's almost no rust on the undercarriage. the yoke holding the cable that needs replacing has been detached from the main single cable that runs forward to the hand lever in the cabin. the major wear on the old cable consists of significant fraying at the points where the cable enters the brake backing plates on both side. the rubber boots are, of course, in poor condition. the car had a new cable, still in it's plastic wrapping, in the trunk when i purchased it. i suspect it is the correct cable...

any suggestions?

[Andy]

Drums have to come off. Give your exact location and as for help.

[Kube]

Also, nearly all of the reproduction cables have a spring that is too long. If you install it as it is (too long) the parking brake will not function correctly and the brake shoes may drag. If memory serves, the spring should be 4 3/4".

[18tillidie]

It’s a fiddly job but not major… there’s a bit of an art to reinstalling the springs that will have you tear your hair out if you don’t get it right! Sounds like a good opportunity to check condition of the brake linings and cylinders anyhow.
If you’re not doing it yourself, I’d be going somewhere else if they are quoting you more than 2-3 hours to do the job unless the cylinders are gummed up.
(Brakes may “work well”, but if you’ve got the shoes off anyhow, now’s the time to deal with any other potential future issues.)

[Ggmac]

If you don’t have the little clips , one for each spring, order them now . It’ll save time and frustration.

[hueyhoolihan]

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Originally Posted by Kube

Also, nearly all of the reproduction cables have a spring that is too long. If you install it as it is (too long) the parking brake will not function correctly and the brake shoes may drag. If memory serves, the spring should be 4 3/4".

thanks, i'll have to take a closer look at the new cable that was not installed that came, uninstalled, with the car.

[Kube]

Originally Posted by hueyhoolihan

thanks, i'll have to take a closer look at the new cable that was not installed that came, uninstalled, with the car.

When installed, if you are not certain the length is proper, there should be NO "bunching" of the spring.

[PeteVS]

Originally Posted by Ggmac

If you don’t have the little clips , one for each spring, order them now . It’ll save time and frustration.

I've had the little thin steel thingies fall off. I'm trying wee little "trailer hitch pin clips" to see if they'll stay on. Bummer if the cable comes disconnected from the actuating lever in there with the shoes.

[rich b]

I have had good luck inserting the clips (91A-2113) between the coils of the springs, letting the excess spring length project into the tube.

Plan on replacing the hub seals along with inspecting and repacking the bearings while you are in there.

Good idea to replace the gaskets under the washers on the outer ends of the hubs.

Oh, yeah other than the cable, spring, and tube; your brakes won't look anything like the ones in the picture.

[hueyhoolihan]

Originally Posted by rich b

I have had good luck inserting the clips (91A-2113) between the coils of the springs, letting the excess spring length project into the tube.

Plan on replacing the hub seals along with inspecting and repacking the bearings while you are in there.

Good idea to replace the gaskets under the washers on the outer ends of the hubs.

Oh, yeah other than the cable, spring, and tube; your brakes won't look anything like the ones in the picture.

i'm beginning to see why the new cable was still in the trunk when i purchased the car...

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by rich b

I have had good luck inserting the clips (91A-2113) between the coils of the springs, letting the excess spring length project into the tube.

Plan on replacing the hub seals along with inspecting and repacking the bearings while you are in there.

Good idea to replace the gaskets under the washers on the outer ends of the hubs.

Oh, yeah other than the cable, spring, and tube; your brakes won't look anything like the ones in the picture.

[bobH]

I'm also working on a 41.... Is there any way to remove the 'clips' (91A-2113) without destroying them, and then re-using them?

[kurt v]

I think i put a twist in the clip just enough to get the cable out and new one back in, was long ago.

[Ggmac]

As Kurt said a ,slight twist may give you enough spring to use them again . Its a lot of work to redo if it doesn’t work . I would reuse only as last resort .

[fordyford]

I have had brakes that were done by some one else who substituted a 1/4" split lock washer for the original clip. It worked OK.

[benbuilder]

Look at my post for some good info:

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=350780

[PeteVS]

Originally Posted by fordyford

I have had brakes that were done by some one else who substituted a 1/4" split lock washer for the original clip. It worked OK.

Sounds like a great idea!

[fortyonerag]

Do you have access to a hub puller?

[hueyhoolihan]

update...

turns out that BOTH the front and rear E-brake cables need replacing. and that i might be able to put off installing the rear one, temporarily.

i've already removed the front cable and found it to be incredibly stiff and thick and intractable! with what appears to be an excessive amount rubber sheathing along its length and what looks like a springs and stretched springs along the length too.

anyway, i've got a new one on the way that looks to be much more svelte and manageable and possibly simple to install. is this just wishful thinking?

again, this is now just the FRONT cable that i'll be replacing for the time being and any pointers would be very welcome. thanks

[kurt v]

pointer no1, put it back the way you took it out.