'32 Roadster top color

[rockfla]

Originally Posted by acchaplin

Thanks for the reply.

However,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, your comment(s) is "very" confusing and hard for me to understand.

Your black white, and "tinted" (?) pictures in your '32 books of Tops and upholstery material colors are "very hard" for me to see one color from the other. I "see" one color, someone else "sees" another color. Another person "sees" a entirely different color.

Looking through the 100's of pictures of '32 roadster tops that GOOGLE supplied. The three colors that stand out, is the Black, and the lighter tans, dark(er) tans.

You once told me (PM) that Stayfast makes the closest '32 Roadster/Phaeton top material.

In Stayfast's web site they show both a "Oyster" with tan backing, and a "Tan" with a tan backing. (either color looks correct compaired to the pictures in your book) I posted the question, which one of those colors is the correct '32 material? You stated above. That, "Dark Beige is the closest" (Stayfast does not list a "Dark Beige" color) I do not understand your comment of, "but lacks the Olive Green of the original."

Then you state, the near white "Oyster" color (which Stayfast offers) is about as close to the original,,,,,,,,. What in the world does "Red and Blue" have anything to do with original '32 top colors!?

According to your above statements either color is the "closest." (???)

Please tell me how can I "word" the question, "which one of Stayfast's top colors listed is the correct '32 roadster top?"

There is NO stayfast color that is an exact match, you will have to choose (to your eye) the lesser of evils. Perhaps the two attached photos will help you as to the "Green hue" of the true original stayfast color (with David's blessing, hoepfully) IF you look at the two attached photos of these extraordinary restorations you will see how the top material has a "greenish/olive"y" hue to the appearance. Especially the 37 picture

[rockfla]

Perhaps this Maroon 33 roadster will also translate on here like it does in the actual picture? The top does not appear tan against the Maroon

[rockfla]

acchaplin


Here is a link that I think will ALSO show a high quality picture and the greenish hue of the more correct top material


https://www.conceptcarz.com/profile/...8-special.aspx

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by rockfla

acchaplin


Here is a link that I think will ALSO show a high quality picture and the greenish hue of the more correct top material


https://www.conceptcarz.com/profile/...8-special.aspx

[acchaplin]

Originally Posted by rockfla

acchaplin


here is a link that i think will also show a high quality picture and the greenish hue of the more correct top material


https://www.conceptcarz.com/profile/...8-special.aspx

thank you!

[rockfla]

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As I have followed and read ALL the post, It was clear to me...your "best" option is "among the current Haartz Stayfast offerings. Dark beige is the closest" and that the "oyster" option would be about as close as "red" or "blue" which my interpretation is.....not even close!!!! JMO

[acchaplin]

Originally Posted by rockfla

As I have followed and read ALL the post, It was clear to me...your "best" option is "among the current Haartz Stayfast offerings. Dark beige is the closest" and that the "oyster" option would be about as close as "red" or "blue" which my interpretation is.....not even close!!!! JMO

Sigh, still have no idea what red or blue colors have anything to do with a "Oyster" color.

The "black backing" is not in David's pictures. So, since the Dark Beige colors were mentioned again. I just emailed Stayfast and asked if they made a Dark Beige with a Beige or Tan backing. I'll post what they say.

[glennpm]

From LeBaron Bonney

[acchaplin]

Originally Posted by glennpm

From LeBaron Bonney

Thanks Glenn. Since LB (or anyone else?) no longer offers "any" OEM colored Roadster/Phaeton upholstery/top material. The questions I have been trying to find out, WHO does!? I'm either, then given a upholstery supplier's name, or told, none exist or not knowing of any close matches. Some have seemingly been tight lipped. Times I get answers that make absoultely no sense (to me) at all.

As I have mentioned, contacted several larger (famous) upholstery shops, several upholstery material suppliers, asking about Copra Drab. I'm told "they don't know" and given a web site with multiple color samples. Even their pictures are off. Because when I receive a sample, it's not even close to the picture(s) on the web sites.

I have yet to find a clear percise OEM color or sample piece that I can get matched! I have received several pictures, but when I try and copy and paste any of those pictures, the color changes somewhat, or the pictures show different colors to different eyes, making it more difficult to "guess" on the match.

I am NOT making some "one off" wild upholstery design and colors! Just a plain, (should be) simple, ORIGINAL color and style upholstery in a Deuce Roadster! And as I have discovered, it's NOT that simple/easy!

Sure would like to "borrow" (we call it barrie) those sample pieces you have there. Gard to see your pictures, but which one of those samples is the OEM seat and side panel Roadster color? Thanks again.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by rockfla

Perhaps this Maroon 33 roadster will also translate on here like it does in the actual picture? The top does not appear tan against the Maroon

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by rockfla

There is NO stayfast color that is an exact match, you will have to choose (to your eye) the lesser of evils. Perhaps the two attached photos will help you as to the "Green hue" of the true original stayfast color (with David's blessing, hoepfully) IF you look at the two attached photos of these extraordinary restorations you will see how the top material has a "greenish/olive"y" hue to the appearance. Especially the 37 picture

[acchaplin]

There is NO stayfast color that is an exact match, you will have to choose (to your eye) the lesser of evils. Perhaps the two attached photos will help you as to the "Green hue" of the true original stayfast color (with David's blessing, hoepfully) IF you look at the two attached photos of these extraordinary restorations you will see how the top material has a "greenish/olive"y" hue to the appearance. Especially the 37 picture

THANK YOU! Ah,,,,,, I "see" now sez the blind man! What confused me was, I didn't see any "olive" hue in David's pictures! David's pictures the top looks Oyster with a similar backing, or Tan(ish) with a similar color backing.

David told me that Stayfast makes the closest '32 top material. Fine and dandy. Go into Stayfast's site, see two colors that (looks) are similar to David's pictures. Ask (post) a seemingly simple question, which one is the correct color,,,,,,,,,,? Then all hell breaks loose! Like I cussed out the Pope or something.

Most of the rainbow colors are then mentioned further confusing, "now what!?" David mentions a "Dark Beige" Stayfast doesn't offer a "Dark Beige"! Very flustrating and confusing, when one is told about Stayfast, then told a color they don't offer!? Stayfast offers a plain Beige with a BLACK backing. Nothing is David's books shows a dark or black backing.

Didn't know you needed David's,,,,,, blessing (!?) to explain (in detail) what this "olive" hue was. Thank you again for your detailed explaination!

Now if someone can tell me the meaning of the "Red and Blue" top colors comment.

I am going to surmise that David's comment, "Not a Oyster in sight." Means that the Oyster with tan backing color isn't the correct colored top? So that leaves the Tan w/tan backing must be the correct choice? Or,,,,,, are you guys privy to a color Stayfast makes that isn't listed,,,,,,, that is being mentioned?