The Ford Barn

Lawrie · 11-17-2023, 10:08 PM

My mate has just bough a WW2 ford blitz, good buy with a rebuilt flathead,
Its a 4x4 with hi and low range,
But it is geared as low as, and at 40 mph in high range the eng is revving like an F11,
Is there ring and pinions avail to get a bit better speed with less rpm.
Lawrie

cas3 · 11-17-2023, 10:11 PM

Lets see a picture of what diffs are in it

Lawrie · 11-17-2023, 10:18 PM

I have no pics of the diffs, But they are a bit like the ones fitted to my 33 ONLY much larger.
I have a pic of the front of the truck but I took it on my iPhone and I cant load it onto my post.
Lawrie

Lawson Cox · 11-17-2023, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawrie

I have no pics of the diffs, But they are a bit like the ones fitted to my 33 ONLY much larger.
I have a pic of the front of the truck but I took it on my iPhone and I cant load it onto my post.
Lawrie

Lawrie: I told you not to follow MY advice about transferring photos from iPhone to computer to barn. For shame. LOL

petehoovie · 11-17-2023, 11:08 PM

https://www.drive.com.au/reviews/194...tz-4x4-review/

Lawrie · 11-17-2023, 11:26 PM

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Lawson, you know how dumb I am
I will get my mate to look out how to fix it.
The iPhone pics are in a different format and I dont know how to change them on my Mac

Pete thats the truck
It a great thing and I bet it would go anywhere,
I have a pic of my uncle in WW2 in front of a ford beer barrel truck , carrion says some KIWIs soldiers taking a rest after chasing the Germans .
Lawrie

Newc · 11-18-2023, 12:45 AM

My avatar is a '42 F30S [CMP Canadian Military Production]and I recommend you live with the gears. Front and rear diffs are matched. Probably the 'banjo' type. Change the rear and have to remove the front drive shaft. Newc

Lawrie · 11-18-2023, 03:32 AM

Thanks Newc
My mate will live with it for sure as he lives in the country and only wants to go on the hi way once every year to the Anzac service, about 5 miles , and once in a while drive it around where he lives,A locality called Mt Larcom.
I knew it would be a big job,
Lawrie

1952henry · 11-18-2023, 03:46 PM

Believe them to be split Timkens. An option, though I don’t know if they would fit, would be 5.14:1 out of an F4. I think they would, but a Ford truck manual would be a good source. Check with Chuck Mantiglia of Chucks Trucks. He has most likely forgotten more truck stuff then most folks ever knew. He deals with MH restorations, as well as cars, pickups, and trucks.

1952henry · 11-18-2023, 03:50 PM

As an aside, I am curious as to the manufacturer of the transfer case for those and the CMPs. The MH used a Fuller, and during the Korean War, Wisconsin was sub-contracts to provide transfer cases. My 52 has the Wisconsin transfer case, it has a one piece case. The serial number provided by MH has a W behind it, denoting the Wisconsin transfer case. I have a 2 piece Fuller on my shop floor.

Nothing like a cast iron gear-drive transfer case. These new aluminum chain driven wonders are junk. Bunch of Chevy 2500 “HD” pickups at work. 2 days of muddy haul roads, and transfer cases sound like rock crushers. Then to town for new case.

Bob C · 11-18-2023, 09:23 PM

I agree with 1952henry, if the axle looks like the one in the picture the best you can do with gears is 5.14 1940-47 ford 1.5 ton.

sugarmaker · 11-18-2023, 09:30 PM

Lawrie,
Good to hear from you! The WW2 truck is a big unit. Drive it and have fun!
Regards,
Chris and Cheryl

petehoovie · 11-18-2023, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob C

I agree with 1952henry, if the axle looks like the one in the picture the best you can do with gears is 5.14 1940-47 ford 1.5 ton.

1952henry · 11-19-2023, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob C

I agree with 1952henry, if the axle looks like the one in the picture the best you can do with gears is 5.14 1940-47 ford 1.5 ton.

That looks like a Coleman conversion. Is it yours?

Oldcarbearings · 04-02-2025, 08:52 PM

Does&would anyone know both how may oil seals are fitted in/to Ford Blitz winches & dimensions or Ford part numbers?, customer gave me a FORD part number : CO11Q-7161 or could it be: C011Q-7161?......

Newc · 04-02-2025, 10:06 PM

The best parts suppliers are in Europe. Many Canadian vehicles were left in the Neatherlands, their area of liberation. Military Vehicle Preservation Association- world wide. Newc

mercman from oz · 04-02-2025, 10:10 PM

1942 Ford One Ton Express 122” Wheelbase

cas3 · 04-02-2025, 10:36 PM

A picture of the winch would help immensely. Its probably is some variation of the common units, Tulsa, Braden, Garwood, used on most ww2 stuff. Truck size would dictate length of spool, and size of shaft. John Bizal At Midwest military.com. would know the answer.

jimTN · 04-04-2025, 08:29 AM

Someone must have a TM Tech manual and a Service Manual and even a parts manual. They will tell the story.

11-17-2023, 10:08 PM	#1
Lawrie Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Qld, Australia Posts: 4,529	Blitz My mate has just bough a WW2 ford blitz, good buy with a rebuilt flathead, Its a 4x4 with hi and low range, But it is geared as low as, and at 40 mph in high range the eng is revving like an F11, Is there ring and pinions avail to get a bit better speed with less rpm. Lawrie

11-17-2023, 10:11 PM	#2
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Beverly Kansas Posts: 5,297	Re: Blitz Lets see a picture of what diffs are in it

11-17-2023, 10:18 PM	#3
Lawrie Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Qld, Australia Posts: 4,529	Re: Blitz I have no pics of the diffs, But they are a bit like the ones fitted to my 33 ONLY much larger. I have a pic of the front of the truck but I took it on my iPhone and I cant load it onto my post. Lawrie

11-17-2023, 11:08 PM	#5
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 10,144	Re: Blitz https://www.drive.com.au/reviews/194...tz-4x4-review/

11-17-2023, 11:26 PM	#6
Lawrie Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Qld, Australia Posts: 4,529	Re: Blitz Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Lawson, you know how dumb I am I will get my mate to look out how to fix it. The iPhone pics are in a different format and I dont know how to change them on my Mac Pete thats the truck It a great thing and I bet it would go anywhere, I have a pic of my uncle in WW2 in front of a ford beer barrel truck , carrion says some KIWIs soldiers taking a rest after chasing the Germans . Lawrie

11-18-2023, 12:45 AM	#7
Newc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,909	Re: Blitz My avatar is a '42 F30S [CMP Canadian Military Production]and I recommend you live with the gears. Front and rear diffs are matched. Probably the 'banjo' type. Change the rear and have to remove the front drive shaft. Newc

11-18-2023, 03:32 AM	#8
Lawrie Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Qld, Australia Posts: 4,529	Re: Blitz Thanks Newc My mate will live with it for sure as he lives in the country and only wants to go on the hi way once every year to the Anzac service, about 5 miles , and once in a while drive it around where he lives,A locality called Mt Larcom. I knew it would be a big job, Lawrie

11-18-2023, 03:46 PM	#9
1952henry Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: North Dakota Posts: 1,786	Re: Blitz Believe them to be split Timkens. An option, though I don’t know if they would fit, would be 5.14:1 out of an F4. I think they would, but a Ford truck manual would be a good source. Check with Chuck Mantiglia of Chucks Trucks. He has most likely forgotten more truck stuff then most folks ever knew. He deals with MH restorations, as well as cars, pickups, and trucks. __________________ I dig coal, which provides motivation for EVs.

11-18-2023, 03:50 PM	#10
1952henry Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: North Dakota Posts: 1,786	Re: Blitz As an aside, I am curious as to the manufacturer of the transfer case for those and the CMPs. The MH used a Fuller, and during the Korean War, Wisconsin was sub-contracts to provide transfer cases. My 52 has the Wisconsin transfer case, it has a one piece case. The serial number provided by MH has a W behind it, denoting the Wisconsin transfer case. I have a 2 piece Fuller on my shop floor. Nothing like a cast iron gear-drive transfer case. These new aluminum chain driven wonders are junk. Bunch of Chevy 2500 “HD” pickups at work. 2 days of muddy haul roads, and transfer cases sound like rock crushers. Then to town for new case. __________________ I dig coal, which provides motivation for EVs.

11-18-2023, 09:30 PM	#12
sugarmaker Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Albion PA Posts: 1,789	Re: Blitz Lawrie, Good to hear from you! The WW2 truck is a big unit. Drive it and have fun! Regards, Chris and Cheryl __________________ 1932 AAB Truck 1953 Ford Jubilee 1965 Mercury Comet Caliente 2015 Ford F250 SuperCrew Lots of Allis tractors Some Cub Cadets

04-02-2025, 08:52 PM	#15
Oldcarbearings Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: North Warrandyte, Melbourne,Victoria, Australia Posts: 112	Re: Blitz Does&would anyone know both how may oil seals are fitted in/to Ford Blitz winches & dimensions or Ford part numbers?, customer gave me a FORD part number : CO11Q-7161 or could it be: C011Q-7161?......

04-02-2025, 10:06 PM	#16
Newc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,909	Re: Blitz The best parts suppliers are in Europe. Many Canadian vehicles were left in the Neatherlands, their area of liberation. Military Vehicle Preservation Association- world wide. Newc

04-02-2025, 10:10 PM	#17
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 12,009	Re: Blitz 1942 Ford One Ton Express 122” Wheelbase

04-02-2025, 10:36 PM	#18
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Beverly Kansas Posts: 5,297	Re: Blitz A picture of the winch would help immensely. Its probably is some variation of the common units, Tulsa, Braden, Garwood, used on most ww2 stuff. Truck size would dictate length of spool, and size of shaft. John Bizal At Midwest military.com. would know the answer.

04-04-2025, 08:29 AM	#19
jimTN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Powell, TN Posts: 2,617	Re: Blitz Someone must have a TM Tech manual and a Service Manual and even a parts manual. They will tell the story.