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Old 02-10-2025, 08:19 PM   #1
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Ya know, as we sit here Monday-morning quarterbacking the decision to have the blocks cast and machined in China, it occurred to me: if Terry had not made that decision, we likely would not have Burtz blocks at all, and we would not be having this conversation. After all, if you don't like where the blocks are made, nobody is forcing you to buy one.
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Old 02-10-2025, 08:37 PM   #2
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Ya know, as we sit here Monday-morning quarterbacking the decision to have the blocks cast and machined in China, it occurred to me: if Terry had not made that decision, we likely would not have Burtz blocks at all, and we would not be having this conversation. After all, if you don't like where the blocks are made, nobody is forcing you to buy one.
Totally agree.
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Ya know, as we sit here Monday-morning quarterbacking the decision to have the blocks cast and machined in China, it occurred to me: if Terry had not made that decision, we likely would not have Burtz blocks at all, and we would not be having this conversation. After all, if you don't like where the blocks are made, nobody is forcing you to buy one.
My intentions of my original post was not to question where the Burtz Blocks are made or why Terry made them there. I was just wondering how much they would go up with the new tariffs.

I just wanted to know if I should buy one now, which I certainly can't afford right now or buy in the future, when I can afford one but may not be able to because the price has gone up too much.
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Old 02-15-2025, 12:32 PM   #4
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My intentions of my original post was not to question where the Burtz Blocks are made or why Terry made them there. I was just wondering how much they would go up with the new tariffs.

I just wanted to know if I should buy one now, which I certainly can't afford right now or buy in the future, when I can afford one but may not be able to because the price has gone up too much.
Y-B: I think that’s a valid question, and one which really hasn’t been addressed in this thread. However, as many threads do, this one got off track and morphed into a discussion of offshore vs. onshore manufacturing. I think Terry’s response was appropriate to address that issue.

Remember that just as easily as tariffs can be imposed by Executive Order, they can be rescinded by Executive Order.

You might consider purchasing a block kit (the biggest single unit) now and adding accessories later when you are ready. I’ve been sitting on mine for about 2-1/2 years.
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Old 02-15-2025, 01:59 PM   #5
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My intentions of my original post was not to question where the Burtz Blocks are made or why Terry made them there. I was just wondering how much they would go up with the new tariffs.

I just wanted to know if I should buy one now, which I certainly can't afford right now or buy in the future, when I can afford one but may not be able to because the price has gone up too much.
Or maybe ask Terry or John how many are stateside, not affected by the tariff scare.

I will chime in just a little about costs here stateside.

A few years ago we investigated having the Donovan "D" motor reproduced.

The minimum run of blocks, just the castings was approx $2500 each, 25-30 pcs. This did not include any machining or liners installed, just a lump of aluminum.
The billet crankshaft and rods, ~$4500 per motor.

This is way overkill for a street motor, but needed to keep ~300 hp together.
Ask Steve Serr what his 8 port cyl head will cost and that doesn't include carbs or injectors.

You cannot go wrong buying the Burtz today as opposed to the next batch.

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Old 02-15-2025, 03:21 PM   #6
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My intentions of my original post was not to question where the Burtz Blocks are made or why Terry made them there. I was just wondering how much they would go up with the new tariffs.

I just wanted to know if I should buy one now, which I certainly can't afford right now or buy in the future, when I can afford one but may not be able to because the price has gone up too much.


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Tariffs are a negotiating tool to stop the influx of illegal aliens and drugs into the USA.

The tariffs on Mexican and Canadian products are paused because Mexico and Canada are increasing their border security.

The 10% tariff on products from China does not apply to the retail price, and there will be no tariff if China increases border security.

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Tariffs are a negotiating tool to stop the influx of illegal aliens and drugs into the USA.

The tariffs on Mexican and Canadian products are paused because Mexico and Canada are increasing their border security.

The 10% tariff on products from China does not apply to the retail price, and there by no tariff if China increases border security.
Thanks Terry for informative answer on tariffs. I, for one, didn't know how that works. Hence my original question.
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Old 02-15-2025, 06:04 PM   #8
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Tariffs are a negotiating tool to stop the influx of illegal aliens and drugs into the USA.

The tariffs on Mexican and Canadian products are paused because Mexico and Canada are increasing their border security.

The 10% tariff on products from China does not apply to the retail price, and there will be no tariff if China increases border security.
Canada is our partner. They helped us win WW-II. Only one half, or one percent of immigration problem crosses from the north. Makes for great headlines. As far as Mexico goes, I say pour it on Donald.
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