Watching YouTube videos pertaining to Model-A repair or restoration...

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Originally Posted by 1930artdeco

Here is my take on the video-and I am no expert by any stretch of the imagination. I got nauseous from all of the camera movements as well, but I think both Terry is right and wrong. Overall, I agree with Terry it was a bad video.

Yes he probably should not have posted a video with misleading info (he did have the book on how to time the car) due to a broken Nu-Rex wrench. That is on him, trying to time the car 50 times is on him as well. He should have stopped and reconsidered his steps-I mean 50 times? He probably should have done some more research as there is plenty out there now-including the owners manual.

On the other hand, he just may not know any better. So people should try to instruct him on doing things the right way. If that does not work and he rejects the info that is on him and people should place those comments in the appropriate place. That way people hopefully will read them and steer clear of his video. And yes he should replace the video with correct info (assuming he is still on YT). There are plenty of people who overestimate their abilities with wrenches-even me sometimes. There are also people who should never touch a wrench-I have seen them as well.

Just my 1.5 cents worth of opinion.

Mike

Mike, if he did not know any better, he should not be posting instructional videos. Over-estimating our capabilities is one thing, but misleading others due to not being knowledgeable is unacceptable ...especially when the video is intended as a 'how to' instructional video.


One other thought on this. I find it interesting where a hobbyist might abstain from joining a local Model-A club because there is the potential where a club member might 'roast a newbie' yet that hobbyist might participate in a social media setting that has a great amount of misinformation and mis-guided opinions being given by 'Keyboard Warriors' who generally have no real-world experience in what they are writing or giving advice on. Then when an experienced hobbyists offers information that disagrees with the 'warrior's' writings, they often bash or flame the experienced hobbyist to protect their own ego.

[SDJason]

Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C

Mike, if he did not know any better, he should not be posting instructional videos. Over-estimating our capabilities is one thing, but misleading others due to not being knowledgeable is unacceptable ...especially when the video is intended as a 'how to' instructional video. <snip>

Absolutely agree!
For the video in question, the Youtuber obviously knew that he had a defective wrench (eventually) - so pretty much EVERYTHING else in the video was a waste of time...why talk for 13+ minutes about all the steps and troubleshooting he went through (including, apparently, trying to do the same thing over and over again 45 times), when it all boiled down to that he had a defective wrench that would set the distributor cam off by 90 degrees?

He could have made a nice informational video about two minutes in length, along the lines of: "Hey folks, beware - the Nu-Rex wrench I received was defective, and if used will make the distributor cam off by 90 degrees. So if you're buying one of these, inspect it first and don't waste alot of time (like I did) trying to set your timing."

Said video should also have shown the defective wrench side-by-side with a good one, so folks can see the difference.


Given what he actually posted, I don't know if folks watching it will even realize the main point (that his wrench is defective), and instead walk away with questionable instructions on how to set timing, or that you can't trust the Nu-Rex wrench at all.

[Hitman]

Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C

Mike, if he did not know any better, he should not be posting instructional videos. Over-estimating our capabilities is one thing, but misleading others due to not being knowledgeable is unacceptable ...especially when the video is intended as a 'how to' instructional video.


One other thought on this. I find it interesting where a hobbyist might abstain from joining a local Model-A club because there is the potential where a club member might 'roast a newbie' yet that hobbyist might participate in a social media setting that has a great amount of misinformation and mis-guided opinions being given by 'Keyboard Warriors' who generally have no real-world experience in what they are writing or giving advice on. Then when an experienced hobbyists offers information that disagrees with the 'warrior's' writings, they often bash or flame the experienced hobbyist to protect their own ego.

Oh the irony in your comments!

Again, we're in this hobby together. National clubs, local clubs, parts suppliers; we're all in this for the same common interest. The hobby does not benefit when we tear each other down and insult someone's knowledge.

Four pages later, did anyone reach out to the guy who made the video and offer to help him? Has anyone invited him to this site so he can perhaps gain or even share his knowledge? Maybe he made the video for his personal use as satire. We don't know.

[SDJason]

Originally Posted by Hitman

<snip>Maybe he made the video for his personal use as satire. We don't know.

In his own words (from the comments section on his video):
"When I bought the wrench I had no idea how it looked or how it worked. It came in defective, it's a simple piece and should have been caught at production. I made the video because it didn't work. All is well now and they sent me a new wrench, no problem. Thank you Nuwrench."

[P.S.]

The title of the video is "HELP!! NU-REX WRENCH FAIL!!! MODEL A FORD WIZARD NEEDED!!!" I copied and paste that, so it is in all caps because that is how the video creator wrote it. He is clearly asking for help. He never once said he was an expert or an authority of anything.

So, I reached out to the guy and offered some real help. Did anyone else? Or am I the only one who is offering any actual help for this guy?

Thank you Brent for starting this thread so this poor guy could (eventually) get some actual help.

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[P.S.]

Well, here's a twist- I commented on his video offering help and how to find me. The comment was deleted a couple hours later.

[shew01]

Originally Posted by P.S.

Well, here's a twist- I commented on his video offering help and how to find me. The comment was deleted a couple hours later.

Wow. I wouldn’t have expected that ending.


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[Hitman]

Originally Posted by P.S.

Well, here's a twist- I commented on his video offering help and how to find me. The comment was deleted a couple hours later.

I emailed earlier and the email bounced back undeliverable. Perhaps he’s amongst us now and is aware of the attention this posting has created.

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Originally Posted by P.S.

Thank you Brent for starting this thread so this poor guy could (eventually) get some actual help.

So now what do we do about the other 6,129(+/-) YouTube Model-A videos whose content providers need actual help with their Model-As too??

[P.S.]

Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C

So now what do we do about the other 6,129(+/-) YouTube Model-A videos whose content providers need actual help with their Model-As too??

When they ask, I help. If I never find out they exist, well...

May I please humbly suggest that when a FordBarn member stumbles across something like this, they try to help the person. Calling out that they should never post a video is not helping. Despite the freedom of speech implications, it is plain mean to tell someone they should have never posted a video when it is everyone's right to do so. FordBarn is not who decides who gets to post a YT video or not. Especially when the video is clearly asking for help. Lots of bashing happens here. Some people here are truly helpful, and that is what should happen every time.

Despite being a YouTube content creator, I don't watch much YouTube. Full time job, family, church, volunteering, MAFCA board stuff, working on Model As, etc. No time.

[Jeff/Illinois]

I guess in summary, it all comes back to just doing it the way Ford originally instructed, without trying to re-invent the wheel.

No need for special tools, or gauges, or timing lights. Keep it simple.

Marco Tahtaras had the best instructional post on his web site, how to do this job, and it pretty much was exactly how Ford said to do it in their owner's manual

Here is Marco's instructions...

https://web.archive.org/web/20190208...hop/timing.htm

[SDJason]

To be fair, the YouTuber DID know exactly what was wrong (he successfully troubleshooted the problem, and really didn't need help)...if you watch his video from about the 8 to 11 minute mark, he covers:
- the wrench is defective (and sets the timing wrong)

- how to set timing the Ford way (from Victor Page's Blue Book, pages 310-312)


If one were to just watch just those three minutes, and skip the first eight minutes, then all the pertinent information is covered.