Rare Wide Five Rim - 15 x 6?

[Ziggster]

Picked this up last week in Hershey. Did a bit of digging and posted on the HAMB, but really didn’t find much. Stamping on rim says Kelsey-Hayes 15 x 6 L. I’ve searched the interweebs, and found 15 x 6 rims, but not in the style I now have. In particular are all the rivets along the inner portion hub circumference without any clearance holes/slots. Anyone have more info as I’m looking for another?

[truckdog62563]

Likely a Marmon-Herrington wide five wheel. Stu

[JM 35 Sedan]

I had one like that years ago and sold it for good bucks, since I had no use for it then, and still wouldn't today. Now if it had been a 16"x 6" wide, 5 on 5-1/2 wire spoke, straight or bent spokes, it would most likely be on one of my '35's right now

[truckdog62563]

To determine if it is a MH wheel a call to Chuck Mantiglia is in order. Plus he might have a line on others. Stu

https://www.chuckstrucksllc.com/

[Ol' Ron]

Could be an old "stock car wheel.
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[deuce_roadster]

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As Ol' Ron said, I have seen those on old stock cars that had been widened or the center put into another wheel after the original center was removed.

[Newc]

V8'er in Oregon has a set [4] For Sale with modern radials on them. Custom made wheels these are. Newc

[Ziggster]

Pretty sure they are stock and have not been made wider after the fact. Other 5” wheels that I’ve found pics of on the web look different and are typically 16”. From what others have said, and from more researching on the interweebs, the 15” x 5” wide five wheel, would have been made by Kelsey Hayes, and used specifically on Ford 4x4 truck conversions done by Marmon-Herrington.

[Ziggster]

Did find this thread on the HAMB, and his wheels looks just like mine. First pic, I’ve come across that has the same rivets around the inner portion with the accompanying “dimples” for the rivets.

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...wheels.849665/

[Ziggster]

Apparently, this is the part number. Post #14 in the thread.

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...l-tech.115542/

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by Ziggster

Did find this thread on the HAMB, and his wheels looks just like mine. First pic, I’ve come across that has the same rivets around the inner portion with the accompanying “dimples” for the rivets.

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...wheels.849665/

[truckdog62563]

Originally Posted by Ziggster

Apparently, this is the part number. Post #14 in the thread.

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...l-tech.115542/

That number is close, but wrong. A K28028 is a hub cap used by Olds and Pontiac. The correct number is K28025. Described as a 15” x 6” with wide five pattern and listed as used 1936 to 1939. And later no doubt since MH was known for using stuff way longer than the application called for. This is the only early pattern 15” x 6” K-H lists. Sold as a set in #1531L. The 4/42 M-H LD6-4 manual has it assigned their number LD1-5368. Stu

[Ziggster]

Amazing knowledge there Stu! There is what appears to be a “57” embossed next to the “15 x 6 L”. What would that indicate?

[truckdog62563]

Not knowledge, a good reference library. I kinda doubt that KH would have the NWRA kit number on a wheel, especially since they never ever stamped their own part numbers into their wheels. Since my above post I found two other NWRA sources that list the 1531L for the size and width of this wheel. Stu

Edit - sorry I don’t know the answer to your question about the 57. The other graphics are the logos used by the NWRA to designate the type of vehicle application. Stu

[Seth Swoboda]

Are those V8 60 wide 5's?

[truckdog62563]

If that was a question for me, sorry I don’t know except to repeat that they were listed as applying to 1936 to 1939 Commercials. The Green Bible doesn’t list them, and the LD6-4 M-H manual only describes them as being used with 7.50”, 8.25”, and 9” tires. Would a V8 60 handle rubber that big? Stu

[nelsb01]

NO..............60 hp wide fives were constructed just like the 85 hp wide fives manufactured by FoMoCo. Just with narrower width.

These look like a special manfacturing.

[38 coupe]

I had a set of 1941 Ford 3/4 ton wheels and they are wider than normal Ford wide 5 pattern wheels. At one point when I was very young, in the 1980s, my dad had a set of 15" wide five pattern wheels and they also looked like the 3/4 ton wheels I had until recently. I highly suspect the 15" wheels dad had were M-H in origin. Both the 3/4 ton and the 15" wheels had centers with four areas that riveted to the hoop, like a normal 1940 Ford wheel. Neither set looked like the wheels at the beginning of this thread. I'm confident those wheels are aftermarket, most likely old racing wheels as suggested by Ol' Ron and deuce_roadster.

[JM 35 Sedan]

Originally Posted by Seth Swoboda

Are those V8 60 wide 5's?

No way Seth. 60hp wide 5 wheels are 3-1/2" wide where the tire locates on the rim. I have a bunch of those that came off 60hp, 37 Fords.

[deuce lover]

3.5" wide fives were also on all 1936 Standards,Deluxe were 4".