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02-05-2023, 10:30 AM | #21 |
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Re: Flathead A Roadster
In this pic you can see a pitman arm. I would say there is a drag link connected to the tie rod.
This arrangement can be problematical if the tie rod can twist, causing lost steering motion. (A friend tried this many years ago). I would be interested to see the drag link/tie rod connection. Mart. |
02-05-2023, 10:31 AM | #22 | |
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02-05-2023, 11:25 AM | #23 |
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When I built the chassis for the Green Hornet this steering setup had already been road proven by Walden Speed Shop and Johnson's Hot Rod Shop. I used a stainless tie rod from Johnson's with the drag link eye built into the tie rod. Dale has over 8000 miles on the car including a trip from Minn to the LARS last summer. Check Johnson's website for a picture of the tie rod under suspension parts.
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02-05-2023, 12:44 PM | #24 | |
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02-05-2023, 12:51 PM | #25 |
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Re: Flathead A Roadster
OK, It seems to make sense now. I would think the "eye" for the drag link would need to be in a horizontal orientaion so the tie rod end can swivel in it's socket without putting a twisting force on the rod.
At least that's what I think is going on. http://johnsonshotrodshop.com/parts-...?parts2_page=2 |
02-05-2023, 01:00 PM | #26 |
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02-05-2023, 05:10 PM | #27 | |
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There's no doubt that it's been done in the past, like this Jeep application, and the one below. I was just curious about how they did it on this extreme example. Coop |
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02-05-2023, 05:14 PM | #28 |
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This type of application hides the drag link under the car. Clean look on a fenderless car
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02-05-2023, 05:40 PM | #29 | |
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That said, these types of things are leaning closer towards street rod vs. hot rod in my opinion. |
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02-05-2023, 05:54 PM | #30 |
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This Model A roadster sure as hell ain't no street rod and I don't consider most of the 100's of chassis I've done for customers over the years street rod rod chassis. I tried to keep them headed in the hot rod direction. Every old car built doesn't have to have a banger or Flathead with wish bones, side steer and 36 rear bones to be a hot rod. Some times I wonder why I comment on this forum. The Ford Barn may be beyond my area of expertise?
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02-05-2023, 05:59 PM | #31 |
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Gary , thanks for posting
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02-05-2023, 07:55 PM | #32 | |
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I didn't mean to offend you and it was not intend as a shot toward you or your work. My comment is simply my opinion. The need for two u joints to line up a steering box is not traditional in any sense of the word. That type of stuff lives is the world of street rods in my opinion. I will admit that I have a narrow view of what makes a car a traditional "hot rod", but in the end it is just my opinion. You have every right to not agree with it. To be clear, what I said is that type of set up is leaning towards street rod. I didn't say it was a street rod. My comment should not take away from the car as I said repeatedly it is a clean build and looks great. Tim |
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02-05-2023, 09:23 PM | #33 | |
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02-06-2023, 01:46 AM | #34 | |
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Plus remember this: That roadster up above ain't got no lawn chairs nor a can of wax in the trunk, so it CAN'T be a dang street rod! Anybody that puts 409 water pumps on a flathead has to have his head in the right place!! Coop . |
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02-06-2023, 09:18 AM | #35 |
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This is a beautiful piece of art and superb craftsmanship. The only thing I see that bothers me is the pitman arm and the connection to the draklink under the scrub line. It is only my opinion.
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02-06-2023, 09:43 AM | #36 |
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Love the car, The only thing that I am not a fan of is the cross steering. I know I'm a bit fussy, but a drag link and side steering is what I believe is necessary for that true hot rod look up to 1934. I know, like four bar it works better, but isn't happening on any of my builds. JMO
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