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mrtexas · 05-29-2011, 09:58 PM

Anyone know about a 4 cylinder flathead in a 41 Ford?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1941-...#ht_500wt_1182

Reds34 · 05-29-2011, 10:24 PM

I think it was 40 & 41 they made those 4 cylinders. I believe they are the same engines as the Ford tractors, but not positive.

Red

40 Deluxe · 05-30-2011, 12:04 AM

This was the 9N tractor engine with a special bellhousing and front motor mount adapters to bolt into a '41-'42 pickup. This was the "economy" engine used to replace the 60 HP V8 which was discontinued after 1940. The 9N (later the 2N & 8N) was essentially half of the '39 Mercury V8 (3 3/16" bore). The pistons, rings, valves, springs and lifters were interchangeable. It was 119.5 cubic inches and rated at 40 HP.

verdirick · 05-30-2011, 12:18 AM

Do a Google Search for German Model B Compressor and look for Ford Garage , see if it isn't a G28-T built by Ford Koln in Germany during the 40's and 50's. This was an improved B engine with full oil pressure etc. Saw one in New Zealand. I have never seen one here in the States. Met a guy in Christchurch with one in a AA that will do 55-60. It might be what you are seeing???

James Rogers · 05-30-2011, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by verdirick

Do a Google Search for German Model B Compressor and look for Ford Garage , see if it isn't a G28-T built by Ford Koln in Germany during the 40's and 50's. This was an improved B engine with full oil pressure etc. Saw one in New Zealand. I have never seen one here in the States. Met a guy in Christchurch with one in a AA that will do 55-60. It might be what you are seeing???

Not a G28. I have seen several G28 motors and they look almost exactly like a B motor except for the aluminum pan and freeze plugs and other minor improvements.

Special Coupe Frank · 05-30-2011, 07:49 AM

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It IS definitely the N-model tractor engine.

Right down to to the Marvel up-draft carb and that damned front-mounted distributor !

A few changes from the agricultural version:

No Governor ( right side, rear of timing case)

Generator flipped to right side of engine

Sending units for temperature and oil-pressure

That's a neat package, but I'll bet it's even slower than a stock Model A !

BCCHOPIT · 05-30-2011, 08:15 AM

There was some talk on the HAMB about the late 4 banger
here is a pic I saved

Charlie Stephens · 05-30-2011, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Special Coupe Frank

It IS definitely the N-model tractor engine.

Right down to to the Marvel up-draft carb and that damned front-mounted distributor !

A few changes from the agricultural version:

No Governor ( right side, rear of timing case)

Generator flipped to right side of engine

Sending units for temperature and oil-pressure

That's a neat package, but I'll bet it's even slower than a stock Model A !

If I remember correctly they added a fuel pump to the truck engine (the tractor application was gravity feed). It would definitely be a step down from the Model A/B engines due to the lower displacement.

Charlie Stephens

anteek · 05-30-2011, 01:09 PM

the picture above shows the fuel pump location with a homemade blockoff over it.

ken ct · 05-30-2011, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrtexas

Anyone know about a 4 cylinder flathead in a 41 Ford?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1941-...#ht_500wt_1182

I have a fresh rebuilt fuel pump for that engine if someone needs one. $150 outrite or less with a core exchange. ken ct.

Jim Brierley · 05-31-2011, 01:11 PM

Those pickups, and some other commercial bodied Fords that had the tractor engine, had 18" wheels, very popular with the Lakes & Bonneville crowd as they could use Indy tires on them. The trucks were slightly faster than a 1-horse wagon

jimvette59 · 01-19-2014, 08:54 PM

I don't know if this thread is still alive but I have a complete transmission one year only ( I think ) for a 41 Ford 4 cylinder. The case is a 78 case and it has two cutouts one on the upper left for the 4 cylinder and one on the lower right for the 8 cylinder. Email me if any body is interested. [email protected]

31Abone · 01-20-2014, 02:43 AM

I have one of these in good shape in my garage with 39- 41 trans.floor shift type and adapter that they used..I think they were in 41 pickups to run downtown in big cities as a delivery car..mine has been updated with the 8N motor..sc

05-29-2011, 09:58 PM	#1
mrtexas Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sugar Land, TX Posts: 4,420	4 cylinder flathead in a 41 pickup? Anyone know about a 4 cylinder flathead in a 41 Ford? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1941-...#ht_500wt_1182

05-29-2011, 10:24 PM	#2
Reds34 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Eastern, CT Posts: 548	Re: 4 cylinder flathead in a 41 pickup? I think it was 40 & 41 they made those 4 cylinders. I believe they are the same engines as the Ford tractors, but not positive. Red

05-30-2011, 12:04 AM	#3
40 Deluxe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: now Kuna, Idaho Posts: 3,818	Re: 4 cylinder flathead in a 41 pickup? This was the 9N tractor engine with a special bellhousing and front motor mount adapters to bolt into a '41-'42 pickup. This was the "economy" engine used to replace the 60 HP V8 which was discontinued after 1940. The 9N (later the 2N & 8N) was essentially half of the '39 Mercury V8 (3 3/16" bore). The pistons, rings, valves, springs and lifters were interchangeable. It was 119.5 cubic inches and rated at 40 HP.

05-30-2011, 12:18 AM	#4
verdirick Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Verdi, Nevada Posts: 170	Re: 4 cylinder flathead in a 41 pickup? Do a Google Search for German Model B Compressor and look for Ford Garage , see if it isn't a G28-T built by Ford Koln in Germany during the 40's and 50's. This was an improved B engine with full oil pressure etc. Saw one in New Zealand. I have never seen one here in the States. Met a guy in Christchurch with one in a AA that will do 55-60. It might be what you are seeing???

05-30-2011, 07:49 AM	#6
Special Coupe Frank Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Northeast Penna Posts: 2,108	Re: 4 cylinder flathead in a 41 pickup? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) It IS definitely the N-model tractor engine. Right down to to the Marvel up-draft carb and that damned front-mounted distributor ! A few changes from the agricultural version: No Governor ( right side, rear of timing case) Generator flipped to right side of engine Sending units for temperature and oil-pressure That's a neat package, but I'll bet it's even slower than a stock Model A !

05-30-2011, 08:15 AM	#7
BCCHOPIT Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Torrington, CT Posts: 609	Re: 4 cylinder flathead in a 41 pickup? There was some talk on the HAMB about the late 4 banger here is a pic I saved __________________ WAC that banger in the A$$ and drive it home hard http://waccustoms.com

05-30-2011, 01:09 PM	#9
anteek Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 319	Re: 4 cylinder flathead in a 41 pickup? the picture above shows the fuel pump location with a homemade blockoff over it.

05-31-2011, 01:11 PM	#11
Jim Brierley Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 4,251	Re: 4 cylinder flathead in a 41 pickup? Those pickups, and some other commercial bodied Fords that had the tractor engine, had 18" wheels, very popular with the Lakes & Bonneville crowd as they could use Indy tires on them. The trucks were slightly faster than a 1-horse wagon

01-19-2014, 08:54 PM	#12
jimvette59 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Perry OH Posts: 1,369	Re: 4 cylinder flathead in a 41 pickup? I don't know if this thread is still alive but I have a complete transmission one year only ( I think ) for a 41 Ford 4 cylinder. The case is a 78 case and it has two cutouts one on the upper left for the 4 cylinder and one on the lower right for the 8 cylinder. Email me if any body is interested. [email protected]

01-20-2014, 02:43 AM	#13
31Abone Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Big pine Ca 93513 Posts: 797	Re: 4 cylinder flathead in a 41 pickup? I have one of these in good shape in my garage with 39- 41 trans.floor shift type and adapter that they used..I think they were in 41 pickups to run downtown in big cities as a delivery car..mine has been updated with the 8N motor..sc