Holley 94 auestion

[Art Newland]

While trying to get two usable carburetors together, I ran across this one that has a different fuel line fitting. Is this something that came stock or maybe it was used to repair the fuel inlet threads?

[Art Newland]

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[ford38v8]

Yes, that’s a repair. More than one way to skin a cat, repair fittings have been around since back in the day, yours looks to be a modern version.

[Art Newland]

Any idea where I could get another?

[jimvette59]

It's a heli coil repair thread size 7/8 x 20 TPI. Look it up on Google.

[Art Newland]

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Originally Posted by jimvette59

It's a heli coil repair thread size 7/8 x 20 TPI. Look it up on Google.

Thanks!

[Russ/40]

I thought helicoils were stainless. That looks to be a brass insert of some kind. Keensert?

[flatrod]

The threads in a 94 bowl should be 1/2 x 20. That does look like a insert to me not a helicoil. I think either will work as long as its installed square, it has to seal with the gasket.

[Mart]

You'd probably be able to find an unmodified carb top easier, Art. Unless the repair is truly a commonly found and well known device.

[tubman]

I would think a common Helicoil would have a tendency to leak in that application. I would prefer to use some kind of insert.

[Art Newland]

Originally Posted by Mart

You'd probably be able to find an unmodified carb top easier, Art. Unless the repair is truly a commonly found and well known device.

You're probably right Mart, my bench already looks like a Holley 94 graveyard. I do have another coming in the mail that looks to have good threads. This seems to be such a common problem you'd think someone would make a repair kit. I'm a repairman at heart, I want to fix it!

[scicala]

Originally Posted by jimvette59

It's a heli coil repair thread size 7/8 x 20 TPI. Look it up on Google.

How could it possibly be a 7/8 x 20 thread ? The boss on the carb isn't even that big.


Sal

[L-head]

The brass part that is marked ".098" looks to me like the fuel inlet/seat of off a Stromberg 97? I don't think it's a 94 Holley part.

[Art Newland]

Originally Posted by L-head

The brass part that is marked ".098" looks to me like the fuel inlet/seat of off a Stromberg 97? I don't think it's a 94 Holley part.

Looks like you are correct, there is a Stromberg fuel inlet that is .098 orifice.

[Art Newland]

I think this is the thread insert;
https://www.stromberg-bulletin.com/s...et-thread-fix/

[Mart]

Not sure what Clive is saying by never seeing a 1/2" thread. They're all 1/2" by design.
I wonder if the fix was to take them to 9/16"

I've never had a stromberg, can I assume the thread is the same as a 94? 1/2"-20?

I'm just going by my 94 experience.

Mart.

[Art Newland]

Originally Posted by Mart

Not sure what Clive is saying by never seeing a 1/2" thread. They're all 1/2" by design.
I wonder if the fix was to take them to 9/16"

I've never had a stromberg, can I assume the thread is the same as a 94? 1/2"-20?

I'm just going by my 94 experience.

Mart.

threads on the insert are 9/16″-18 OD. and 7/16″-24 ID. (standard).

The fuel line connection is the same as the Holley but where it threads into the carb it's 7/16. It's an expensive repair by the time you purchase the inlet, insert, proper drill and tap. Not to mention associated shipping costs.

[Art Newland]

My Holley 94 experiment for the day.

[Mart]

Art, are you rethreading a pipe thread to 1/2-20? To make it a face seal instead of an olive (as we call them) fitting?

I actually went out to the garage (it's nearly midnight here) to check a 94 is 1/2 -20.
I began to doubt myself.

so, if I have this right, a stromberg has a brass fitting with a 7/16 thread into the carb. This brass fitting takes the normal 1/2" "ford" nut. this is adapted into a worn out or damaged holley by threading out to 9/16 and using an insert to adapt down to 7/16 to take the brass piece robbed from a stromberg?

I can see why you're using the lathe to get you out of a mess.

Mart

edit: "standard" (UNF) for 7/16 is a 20 tpi pitch. 24 is used on weatherhead fittings like brake pipes for 1/4" tube nuts.

[Art Newland]

Originally Posted by Mart

Art, are you rethreading a pipe thread to 1/2-20? To make it a face seal instead of an olive (as we call them) fitting?

I actually went out to the garage (it's nearly midnight here) to check a 94 is 1/2 -20.
I began to doubt myself.

so, if I have this right, a stromberg has a brass fitting with a 7/16 thread into the carb. This brass fitting takes the normal 1/2" "ford" nut. this is adapted into a worn out or damaged holley by threading out to 9/16 and using an insert to adapt down to 7/16 to take the brass piece robbed from a stromberg?

I can see why you're using the lathe to get you out of a mess.

Mart

edit: "standard" (UNF) for 7/16 is a 20 tpi pitch. 24 is used on weatherhead fittings like brake pipes for 1/4" tube nuts.

I think you got it!

I turned down this $3 fitting to .503 , smoothed out the threads in the carb with a .500 bit,
Added a bit of sleeve retainer and pressed it together.