|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
05-09-2019, 05:38 PM | #1 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: langley, wa.
Posts: 642
|
Steering column bracket
How was the steering column bracket installed? Looks as though it was soldered and riveted to the tank! So the only holes would be the four rivet holes?
|
05-09-2019, 05:42 PM | #2 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Eastern Tennessee
Posts: 11,577
|
Re: Steering column bracket
Quote:
That is correct. The solder was used to seal the plate in case of weeping. The issue I find is most of the ones that are weeping have cracks radiating out from the rivet holes where the metal is fatigued. The correct way to repair it is to weld the cracks and the holes solid and re-drill. That way the steering column is rigid again. Lots of vibrations are transferred thru the column. |
|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|
05-09-2019, 05:46 PM | #3 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 7,565
|
Re: Steering column bracket
Quote:
__________________
I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood. Last edited by Synchro909; 05-10-2019 at 09:36 PM. |
|
05-09-2019, 06:02 PM | #4 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Connecticut Shoreline
Posts: 1,846
|
Re: Steering column bracket
I assume your talking about the 28/29 cars.
I would remove the tank and use a good quality slosh sealer. With the 29 we have had now for 40 years we sloshed it three times before putting it back in car. No problems for 30 years. Keeping our fingers crossed. If you follow the directions, it should work well. Follow instructions! Enjoy. |
05-09-2019, 06:50 PM | #5 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 1,099
|
Re: Steering column bracket
However you fix the tank get rid of the column to tank bracket. Use the later model one that attaches to the dash rail. Not only does the tank to bracket flex causing the tank to crack it puts stress on the steering box to frame attachment bolts and will cause the frame to wallow out at the mount bolts. Use a little creative engineering if the later model bolt holes don't match the existing dash holes.
John |
05-09-2019, 06:57 PM | #6 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 7,565
|
Re: Steering column bracket
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Quote:
BTW, RHD support brackets are not available from the vendors. I belive they were used in 1931. As far as I know, no Model As came to this country in 1931.
__________________
I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood. |
|
05-10-2019, 05:32 AM | #7 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: NH
Posts: 182
|
Re: Steering column bracket
Mine is mounted to the dash -- no problems..
__________________
'30 Coupe |
05-10-2019, 10:31 AM | #8 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Guthrie, OK
Posts: 1,158
|
Re: Steering column bracket
The dash mounting plate fits only mid-30 and later cars. Earlier tank yokes were 3/8" longer, placing the steering wheel against your pudgy thighs. This is somewhere on Steve Plucker's site, but I can't find it now -
http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm |
05-10-2019, 11:12 AM | #9 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Red Deer, Alberta
Posts: 5,107
|
Re: Steering column bracket
Quote:
__________________
If you don't hear a rumor by 10 AM, start one!. Got my education out behind the barn! |
|
08-29-2019, 10:12 PM | #10 |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Mission, BC
Posts: 60
|
Re: Steering column bracket
It looks like the PO had some issues with gas weeping thru this mount area.
As a newbie I was not looking for these kind of issues when I purchased the A. It does not leak now, at least not with a partial full tank, but it will be very likely I will be tugging on the wheel at times while cramming myself behind it. Does anyone have a link or pic to the 31 mount installed, or even the correct parts I need to get this possible issue dealt with? A quick search shows the main part as being out of stock or discontinued on macs.........
__________________
I love a girl and "Ruby" is her name, ChaCha |
08-29-2019, 11:04 PM | #11 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Canterbury, New Zealand
Posts: 1,242
|
Re: Steering column bracket
Quote:
Canada did have a RHD '31 column support, it was available here in NZ. My neighbour who had a late '30 still has a spare one but not cheap [$100 NZ]. Cheers. -Tom |
|
08-30-2019, 04:07 AM | #12 |
Senior Member
|
Re: Steering column bracket
How much original finish does one think is left before the repair?
__________________
What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II |
08-30-2019, 05:36 AM | #13 |
BANNED
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA
Posts: 6,066
|
Re: Steering column bracket
Here is some information on the brackets:
http://www.plucks329s.org/pdf/gastan...31gas_tank.pdf Pluck |
08-31-2019, 01:30 PM | #14 |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Mission, BC
Posts: 60
|
Re: Steering column bracket
This is helping to get my head wrapped around it, but not really answering my question.
Is this 31 bracket an easy swap? Does the older one attached to the tank get zipped off or left for strength? Or should I just leave the original bracket as is for the purpose of keeping the truck original? Thanks for the input. L
__________________
I love a girl and "Ruby" is her name, ChaCha |
08-31-2019, 04:50 PM | #15 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Illinois
Posts: 2,194
|
Re: Steering column bracket
I left the original bracket with out the rubber support and used the 31 from the dash.the lower support shoud not touch the column. Loosen steering box to align.
For 28-29 a 1/4 “ spacer is needed. There is a diagram on this somewhere,maybe someone has it. John
__________________
Welcome each day |
08-31-2019, 08:00 PM | #16 |
BANNED
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 1,262
|
Re: Steering column bracket
Even back in the late 20's and early 30's lawyers controlled the corporate narrative,Ford had numerous issues in court regarding the cowl tank.from the tank screen to the steering column bracket the engineering was unsettled,forced by exposure to claim.
|
09-01-2019, 11:28 AM | #17 | |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Mission, BC
Posts: 60
|
Re: Steering column bracket
Quote:
Where does the new one attach to the dash?
__________________
I love a girl and "Ruby" is her name, ChaCha |
|
09-01-2019, 02:42 PM | #18 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Canterbury, New Zealand
Posts: 1,242
|
Re: Steering column bracket
Quote:
The cowl tank was not a flaw in the design of the Model A & in fact added to the simplicity of design & long life of the car. People had been sitting on the tank in open Model T's & up to the mid '20's, motorists routinely travelled with boxes of spare fuel tied to the running boards & fenders when on long trips. Cheers. |
|
09-01-2019, 04:15 PM | #19 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Illinois
Posts: 2,194
|
Re: Steering column bracket
Quote:
You use 2 of these bolts to hold the new column drop. John
__________________
Welcome each day |
|
09-01-2019, 06:49 PM | #20 |
Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Posts: 26
|
Re: Steering column bracket
Just did this for a 29 Tudor. We found that an 8" long adapter gave use a little more room to drill the holes. It looks like the column support bracket is on national back order. We got ours from Steve at Berts Model A in Denver. Good luck!
Last edited by father-son; 09-01-2019 at 08:43 PM. |
|
|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|