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Old 09-06-2018, 03:16 PM   #1
Dick Steinkamp
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Default Re: Jay piercy's 30 coupe is on ebay...

Brent,
I'm just a hobbiest, but I have built over 30 cars...both hot rods and stockers. I've sold all my cars through eBay or BaT. The part of the hobby I enjoy most is building the cars. I'm not a rich guy and I don't have tons of storage space, so I need to sell them soon after I finish them in order for the hobby to continue for me. I'm skilled enough (but hardly a pro) that I have always broken even on my cars and usually make a profit (excluding my labor of course). Two of my cars have been invited to the Grand National Roadster Show in Pomona, another went to a museum in Winnipeg. Here's a sampling...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/996911...57650980254655

I certainly believe you when you say this coupe is a very special car...but I can't tell that from the pictures and text. If I was in the market, but if I didn't know the car like you do, I doubt if I would follow up on this one. Nothing is really said or pictured that would justify the price.

I agree that eBay can give a car some excellent exposure that results in an after auction sale. This has happened to me several times. But my experience is that you have to do a far better job of showing off the car both in words and pictures than was done here in order to get those follow up calls.

Again, I'd start the car at $1,000 with a high reserve. I'd provide at least 20 pictures and a link to many more. I'd give a full description of the car, its history, the story of the restoration, the awards it has won, etc. When the auction ends, and the reserve isn't met, a potential buyer that has never seen or heard of this car would have enough information to follow up. I would also know post auction how the market values the car.

I also agree with you that if this car is to actually sell anywhere near $50k, that it would go to a rich guy that absolutely needed a 30 Coupe in this condition, with this color, and equipment. Finding those few people that qualify (or that one person) will not be easy. This eBay ad won't help any.

Here's an example of one of my eBay listings. A pretty unique car with a limited buyer pool. This car did not sell during the eBay auction but sold post auction to the high bidder for more than his final bid amount and about the same money as the 30 Coupe...

http://studeute.steinkamp.us/the-kar...r-is-for-sale/

Here's one of my BaT auctions. Another unique car and it sold during the auction...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-daimler-v8-250/

If you say this car is Copra/Chicle, then it is. This is how it shows in the eBay listing, however...



I don't know if it is the lighting, the camera, or what, but this isn't Copra/Chicle.

Based on your knowledge of this car, I'm sure it is beautiful. I hope it sells for what the seller feels it is worth. I'm only saying that this eBay listing did not help that process.
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Old 05-18-2020, 03:45 PM   #2
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Default Re: Jay piercy's 30 coupe is on ebay...

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Brent,
I'm just a hobbiest, but I have built over 30 cars...both hot rods and stockers. I've sold all my cars through eBay or BaT. The part of the hobby I enjoy most is building the cars. I'm not a rich guy and I don't have tons of storage space, so I need to sell them soon after I finish them in order for the hobby to continue for me. I'm skilled enough (but hardly a pro) that I have always broken even on my cars and usually make a profit (excluding my labor of course). Two of my cars have been invited to the Grand National Roadster Show in Pomona, another went to a museum in Winnipeg. Here's a sampling...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/996911...57650980254655

I certainly believe you when you say this coupe is a very special car...but I can't tell that from the pictures and text. If I was in the market, but if I didn't know the car like you do, I doubt if I would follow up on this one. Nothing is really said or pictured that would justify the price.

I agree that eBay can give a car some excellent exposure that results in an after auction sale. This has happened to me several times. But my experience is that you have to do a far better job of showing off the car both in words and pictures than was done here in order to get those follow up calls.

Again, I'd start the car at $1,000 with a high reserve. I'd provide at least 20 pictures and a link to many more. I'd give a full description of the car, its history, the story of the restoration, the awards it has won, etc. When the auction ends, and the reserve isn't met, a potential buyer that has never seen or heard of this car would have enough information to follow up. I would also know post auction how the market values the car.

I also agree with you that if this car is to actually sell anywhere near $50k, that it would go to a rich guy that absolutely needed a 30 Coupe in this condition, with this color, and equipment. Finding those few people that qualify (or that one person) will not be easy. This eBay ad won't help any.

Here's an example of one of my eBay listings. A pretty unique car with a limited buyer pool. This car did not sell during the eBay auction but sold post auction to the high bidder for more than his final bid amount and about the same money as the 30 Coupe...

http://studeute.steinkamp.us/the-kar...r-is-for-sale/

Here's one of my BaT auctions. Another unique car and it sold during the auction...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-daimler-v8-250/

If you say this car is Copra/Chicle, then it is. This is how it shows in the eBay listing, however...



I don't know if it is the lighting, the camera, or what, but this isn't Copra/Chicle.

Based on your knowledge of this car, I'm sure it is beautiful. I hope it sells for what the seller feels it is worth. I'm only saying that this eBay listing did not help that process.
I have ssen the car mang times and admired Jays persistence. I can certify that the appearance of the color in that picture is not a correct representation of the actual color. It looks like that picture has had a sepia tone added to it.
Trust me, it is Copra/Chicle. Mine's the same color but painted 55 years ago in a high school vocational auto shop.
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