The Ford Barn

hammerless-12 · 09-25-2017, 05:22 PM

I'm putting bands in a friend's 1923 model T. It has the removable bands, meaning, in theory you don't have to remove the "hogshead" to replace the band linings. But Ive never liked pulling the band's up and out of the inspection cover. When he brought the car to my place he had two "new old stock" sets of Scandinavian band linings with him for me to install in his car. Each of the new band linings are marked "For all Ford cars 1926-1927, T and TT". His thought was to use two narrow bands out of one set, then use one of the narrow bands out of the other set. Having never dealt with this before, I agreed to do the job useing his bands under the assumption the NOS band linings would work just fine. I pulled the hogshead off and found a very well worn set of linings, particularly the low speed band. As I prepared to rivet the NOS linings onto the band's I compared the lenght of each band lining, they where right on. However the NOS lining is considerably thicker. These things are thicker than any band lining I've seen for the model T. My question is this, will these linings work in this car? The NOS linings look very nice and, if I where to guess, they probably date back to the 1960s or 70s. They also came with, what I believe, steel rivets.
Any help or input is greatly appreciated.
Thank you.

29spcoupe · 09-25-2017, 05:29 PM

The thickness of the lining will probably not be an issue, but do not use steel rivets. They can wear grooves in the drums and if they come out of the bands they will stick to the magnets and may interfere with the magneto.

stevests · 09-26-2017, 10:30 AM

You best measure the length of each lining also - if the "Scandinavia" box has a white "Cantex" label, they were known be have put out shorter than original lengths - original Scandi's & Ford linings were in the neighborhood of 23 & 1/2" long.

hammerless-12 · 09-26-2017, 12:33 PM

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The length is right on. I did install them and they appear to be fine. I did use brass rivets I luckily had.I put the rear wheels up on Jack stands and run it awhile, the band's are "seating" in nicely. If it stops raining I will drive the car around for the next couple of days. Then re-adjust them. Thank you for your help and suggestions. First time I've broken up two old sets of bands for one car. My three cars are all 1923 and older, so I'm not well versed in the 1926-27 cars. I hope they old up well. Thanks again guys.

09-25-2017, 05:22 PM	#1
hammerless-12 Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 40	Model T bands linings I'm putting bands in a friend's 1923 model T. It has the removable bands, meaning, in theory you don't have to remove the "hogshead" to replace the band linings. But Ive never liked pulling the band's up and out of the inspection cover. When he brought the car to my place he had two "new old stock" sets of Scandinavian band linings with him for me to install in his car. Each of the new band linings are marked "For all Ford cars 1926-1927, T and TT". His thought was to use two narrow bands out of one set, then use one of the narrow bands out of the other set. Having never dealt with this before, I agreed to do the job useing his bands under the assumption the NOS band linings would work just fine. I pulled the hogshead off and found a very well worn set of linings, particularly the low speed band. As I prepared to rivet the NOS linings onto the band's I compared the lenght of each band lining, they where right on. However the NOS lining is considerably thicker. These things are thicker than any band lining I've seen for the model T. My question is this, will these linings work in this car? The NOS linings look very nice and, if I where to guess, they probably date back to the 1960s or 70s. They also came with, what I believe, steel rivets. Any help or input is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

09-25-2017, 05:29 PM	#2
29spcoupe Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Rhinebeck, NY Posts: 763	Re: Model T bands linings The thickness of the lining will probably not be an issue, but do not use steel rivets. They can wear grooves in the drums and if they come out of the bands they will stick to the magnets and may interfere with the magneto.

09-26-2017, 10:30 AM	#3
stevests Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Longbranch, Washington Posts: 524	Re: Model T bands linings You best measure the length of each lining also - if the "Scandinavia" box has a white "Cantex" label, they were known be have put out shorter than original lengths - original Scandi's & Ford linings were in the neighborhood of 23 & 1/2" long.

09-26-2017, 12:33 PM	#4
hammerless-12 Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 40	Re: Model T bands linings Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) The length is right on. I did install them and they appear to be fine. I did use brass rivets I luckily had.I put the rear wheels up on Jack stands and run it awhile, the band's are "seating" in nicely. If it stops raining I will drive the car around for the next couple of days. Then re-adjust them. Thank you for your help and suggestions. First time I've broken up two old sets of bands for one car. My three cars are all 1923 and older, so I'm not well versed in the 1926-27 cars. I hope they old up well. Thanks again guys.