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04-05-2011, 10:50 AM | #21 |
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Re: automatic for an A
Raul makes the adapters that Art uses. Raul runs a hot Cragar and Art everything from a mild Miller to a hot 4-port Riley. Art puts more miles on his than anyone, and has had good success with the 904 trans, at least since he went to a heavy duty flex plate. BTW, Riley came out with his 4-port in 1933, in my opinion they are the best performing street and short track head ever built for the A & B.
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04-05-2011, 11:14 AM | #22 | |
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I would put my money on a good old TH-400 or 4L80E for a truck transmission any day. Any how thats my opinion. I should know better then to get tied up in an argument about what brand is better. I apologize for causing the thread to get side tracked. |
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04-05-2011, 11:53 AM | #23 |
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I might add that Art Moore is a consistent hill climb winner in his auto trans set up.
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03-16-2017, 11:18 PM | #24 |
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C4 is a great auto for A or B banger.
It takes a lot of effort however. Two adapters and a custom flywheel. I run this setup in the FAST races with good results. |
03-16-2017, 11:36 PM | #25 |
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I posted 6 years ago, when this thread was new, a link for adapters for chevy trannys. Here is one for the C4, http://www.honestcharley.com
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03-17-2017, 12:52 AM | #27 |
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I've worked with several C-4's. To me that's the best transmission to adapt to a Model A/B.
They are supposed to use the least amount of power, are cheap to acquire and are easily rebuilt. You would have to create an open drive setup, but that wouldn't be too difficult at all. JMO |
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03-17-2017, 05:12 AM | #30 |
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There i no A4OD ford transmission
He prob meant A4LD. Thats a C-3 with an overdrive which came out in 1985.. before that the ranger would have used a C-3 Last edited by Mitch//pa; 03-17-2017 at 05:19 AM. |
03-17-2017, 07:50 AM | #31 |
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Is there a tranny cooler ? Where do they put it ?
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03-17-2017, 09:27 AM | #32 |
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GM automatic transmissions circa 1980s were junk. I had three transmission failures due to improperly heat treated parts.
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Tell Lillian that she needs a note from her doctor before you will put an automatic transmission into the Model A. She should be able to learn to drive the clutch thingy in a couple of hours if she really wants to (maybe she would just rather you drive). It would take you hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars to install an automatic. Charlie Stephens |
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03-17-2017, 06:08 PM | #34 |
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We installed one of Art Moore's auto trans kits with the Chrysler 904 about 15 years ago, with a stock engine and 5.5 head. Works great!!! Car is still running strong.
The reason the 904 trans was chosen years ago for this conversion, is the starter is mounted to the transmission. Makes the conversion much easier. Car must be 12 volt (due to later starter), you must make a trans mount,and have hydraulic brakes (trans gets in the way of the stock cross shaft). I didn't think, prior to doing this, that a stock Model A had enough power to run this trans. I was wrong. It works perfectly. Call Art Moore, and have him set you up, but realize that you have to make the changes I listed above. If you need his phone #, call me. Steve @ Bert's modelastore.com |
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THANKS, for your input and clearing up some often stated misconceptions ,i.e.- not enough power to run an automatic, etc... |
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"Maybe" it's time to consider a more "modern" engine with an automatic???
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Bill, I have to agree with you on this. It is good to have the engine and transmission matched as an assembly from the factory. I am partial to the old Chevy II engines or the current 181 cubic inch industrial version of that engine. Having said that there had better be a VERY GOOD reason accompanied by a note from the doctor for doing this. Charlie Stephens |
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03-19-2017, 07:36 PM | #38 |
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I have a 904 automatic in my 31 widebed pickup. The engine is freshly rebuilt has a counterbalanced crank and a riley 2 port head. In order to use this transmission I had to attach ladder bars to the rear. I also had to construct a crossmember to mount the ladderbars and rear of the transmission. I also made a crossmember to mount the front of the transmission as well as the front wishbone ball. I also have a cable attached from the transmission to the carburator that adjusts the shift point of the transmission. I have it set where it shifts into second at around 16mph and into 3rd around 32 both dependant on how hard you are accelerating. I am very happy with the way it runs drives and shifts. I have tried to attach pictures but am unsure if they will show up.
I would be happy to answer any questions you may have. Beau |
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What are u using for a converter spec wise // or a stock slant six converter Mechanical lockup or non lockup Rear ratio Last edited by Mitch//pa; 03-19-2017 at 08:42 PM. |
03-20-2017, 09:12 PM | #40 |
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I don't know what the specs are on the converter but it has a a pilot dia. of 1.81, it has 122 tooth ring gear and it is a 27 spline non lock up converter. The trans is from a 1968 or later 225 slant 6 engine. As far as the rear ratio I don't really know I assume it is the stock 31 pickup rear unless it was changed at some point. Did pickups come with different ratio's? I assume it is pretty high. To check it I should jack up the rear and turn the tire 1 revolution and count how many times the drive shaft rotates? Does this sound correct? I have thought about doing this out of curiosity. I feel the sweet spot for driving is around 51 mph I have had it over 60 but it is reving pretty good at those speeds.
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