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Just wondering what you guys think on the subject of running an oil filter on my model a? I plan on driving it quite a bit like at least two or three times a week so just wondering if I should just change the oil every 500 or so miles or would it be a good idea to run a modern type filter?
And the other question is would you run it horizontal or vertical off of of the block? And who makes a good or the best adapter bracket if running vertical is the best way to go? Thanks. |
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I know alot of people run them. I cant see any negative effects from them.
That 500 mile oil change was back when people didnt drive much more than the few miles to town on dusty dirt roads with oil that we wouldnt even use as chainsaw bar oil nowadays. With no filter on modern paved roads and modern multiweight oil i think most people go 1000 miles minimum before changing it. I think others go by color. A few have sent their oil samples off to get tested and the report tells them how many more miles you can go before the additives are used up/dirty - probably the best solution. Best solution is to drive your A and drive it longer distances to get the acids and moisture "burned out" of the oil/oil pan every drive as thats what does the damage.
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If you want to go vertical I suggest you either go to your local bone yard/pick a part and grab an adapter off a Ford Ranger sized car or pick one up from someplace like this http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Ford-R...FRRgfgodXn8Hiw.
I have one installed with the filter that came with the Mikes A Fordable "full flow" oil filter, and except for the outside diameter of their filter hitting the timing cover, it is pretty much vertical. One thing, you will need to get a new exhaust gasket, I was able to unbolt the manifold and the muffler clamp and twist the whole assembly out of the way and hold it there with a piece of bailing wire wrapped around the fuel bowl on the firewall while I cleaned and installed the new valve cover and tube assembly.
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The oil filter kit from Bratton's #9510 is what we have on several cars. Because we do long tours we like that you do not have to be concerned about oil change while on a tour. The adapter from Speedway mentioned above is use on the car too. Sets the filer vertical and makes for an easy clean filter change.
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If it is paved roads you drive on and you change the oil every 500-1000 miles ( I change every 500 miles and before they go into storage ) you should be fine without a filter. If it makes you feel better go ahead and install one, if can't hurt anything. Wayne
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I am in the process of having my engine re-done by Scwhalm's. It will be getting the "full-flow" valve-cover mount oil-filter. Driver car, not in it for points judging. Would also recommend a high-volume, hi-mount air-filter. Can only lengthen the life of your engine. |
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I have one A with it on and one without. I lucky if I put 7 or 8 hundred miles on both of them in a year. Which makes me wonder why I even bothered to put the one on in the first place. I change the oil every spring whether they need it or not.
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Where I live in Florida is close to everything I want to do on the weekends so I will probably be driving it every weekend for sure.
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Any tips you guys that have driven these things every week for years could give me to check weekly or maintenance weekly to keep it running top notch would be appreciated also
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I do not have an oil filter on my car so I change the oil about every 500 miles. At the same time I give it a complete grease job and check the trans for fluid. I check the rear once a year in the spring. Also at 500 miles I oil the generator and the distributor and the throttle and spark linkages, check fan belt tension, check point gap and grease distributor cam. Of course regularly I check the oil and water levels and before a longer trip torque the head bolts and wheel lugs and maybe check the brake linings and wheel bearings.
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Yes use the side cover with the oil filter it is almost a full flow filter, the one that goes on
the side of the timing cover is basically a by pass filter. Also as above use the vertical adapter from a 4.0 ford engine, either wrecking yard or ebay. |
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Here is what it looks like with the Full Flow and right angle adapter off a 4.0 Ford.
Kinda nifty having Ford Script on the adapter too ![]() I still think this is a Mike's A Fordable set. Last edited by DaWizard; 12-15-2016 at 04:16 PM. |
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I drive my Vic every day, I have put over 50,000 miles on it; it has an oil filter. I change oil and filter before it reaches 1,000 miles. I buy several filters at a time and paint them Ford green, otherwise the white or orange colors will leap right through the hood louvers at you.
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If you were to use a WIX filter, it's black and has a peel-off label. Works for me!
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GarlG:
What is the part number for the Wix filter? BTW: Wix filters are mfg in my home town of Gastonia, N.C. Bill Lee/Virginia Peninsula |
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As I have said here before, I do lots of LOOONNNG distance touring. The last trip was over 8,000 miles - towing a camper. I run an oil filter on the side cover and an air cleaner. I have temperature and oil pressure gauges (the middle main bearing has been pressurised to 25 psi). I do anything from 250 to 700 miles in a day. Oil is changed when the instruments tell me to.
I quickly learned the relationship between speed, temperature and oil pressure. When I see the oil pressure holding at a lower figure than the speed I was doing at whatever the temperature would normally produce, I change the oil. I generally get 3,000 to 4,000 miles out of a cheap 20W50 grade oil but that is reduced when I'm doing short trips.
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