The Ford Barn

white64 · 01-21-2016, 04:18 PM

in the beginning... https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=168102

cutting, shaping, weldin and grinding don't scare me too much... just needs to think about it a bit...

swoopNZ · 01-21-2016, 05:33 PM

Had the same problem on my 39 coupe.
Body man fixed it in about 4 hours.

white64 · 01-21-2016, 05:45 PM

there's one on ebay right now for $250 outside of Pittsburg, but no shipping, bummer #2 ...

white64 · 01-22-2016, 03:31 PM

progress pics... gonna take me longer than 4 hours!

rotorwrench · 01-22-2016, 04:41 PM

Forming "Free Hand" is a lot like any other type of art. It's all by eye & sometimes repetition. You were fortunate to still have a fair bit of the inner structure to indicate the shape there to some extent. I can tell it still ain't easy. A person would likely need a buck to form a section the size you might have needed if you didn't have something to point you in the right direction. A person would need an original part to pattern the buck or bucks after so that complicates things a lot. It's too bad they don't supply inner and outer skins for the 39 & 40 coupe lids but even if someone does, they might be pricey these days.

You are well on the way and it's looks like you are doing good to me. Keep it up. We don't get a lot of build contributions on this site like the HAMB does and it is very welcome.

white64 · 02-09-2016, 10:27 PM

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Test fit on the body, the lid is in epoxy primer behind the doors in the 2nd picture.

As you can tell in the pictures I have A LOT of lighting! These old eyes need it, got each light for $10 (w/o bulbs) found on craigslist! It makes a huge difference!

Art Maurice · 02-11-2016, 04:51 PM

Hi Pat, Nice job!! Art.

white64 · 02-11-2016, 07:22 PM

Thanks Art! (Art is a great guy who's been into old fords for a very long time, he sold me the sedan which w/o, this build would never have been possible... we both made great use of the sedan, or what was left of it...)

CSArno · 02-12-2016, 06:21 AM

Looking great Pat! I would like to come check it out sometime. I got my 8BA home from Walts yesterday. Might put it in today if I don't freeze to death... 0 here right now..

Chris

Walt Dupont--Me. · 02-12-2016, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSArno

Looking great Pat! I would like to come check it out sometime. I got my 8BA home from Walts yesterday. Might put it in today if I don't freeze to death... 0 here right now..

Chris

Hi Chris. I thought you would work all night putting that engine in. lol It's 5 degrees above here with wind making it 15* below nothing. When you come down next time we'll go over to Pat's and see his 40. Walt

white64 · 03-18-2016, 03:48 PM

update: The deck lid came out pretty good.. I found another set of front fenders about 30 minutes away ( I discovered I had originally bought PU fenders some time ago), these are not bad, but they had the usual cracks, and some light running board area damage. The rear fenders I found pretty cheap at Hershey last fall, not bad, not good; they had the usual damage too, cracked wheel openings, rust-out around the bottom, dents in the back, running board damage etc.. The front radiator pans needed fixing etc. etc. ( I think I have earlier running boards, the front holes don't match up...)
I put it all together for the first time, what a pain in the arse! ..especially alone, unless you got 4 ft long arms, and 4 of 'em to boot. I would bet when a body man of the era saw a '40 come in he charged double!
Well here are some pics, the plan is to smooth out the last little things, filler primer, sand, filler primer, sand, take it all apart, seal, color (folkstone gray), put it back together..WITH HELP!
Hey it's never going to be an low mileage original or a show winner... it will always be a tramp... but I think it's damn kewl so far !

40cpe · 03-18-2016, 04:07 PM

Making something out of nothing...Good job.

TJ · 03-18-2016, 07:16 PM

Just for info I saw a new Subaru yesterday sporting a color that looks identical to Folkstone Gray. Might be something to look at when you are ready to paint.

ford nut · 04-13-2016, 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by white64

update: The deck lid came out pretty good.. I found another set of front fenders about 30 minutes away

any pictures of your fender repairs? that's what i'm doing on my 40 coupe right now. next will be a complete floor front to back,from dennis carpenter. spooky stuff!

white64 · 04-20-2016, 08:57 PM

I'll take a few pictures of the repaired fenders, from the inside of course (I'm not so anal as to finish the insides! :-) )

The finished deck lid:

Henry Hopper · 04-21-2016, 01:34 AM

Doubt there's a more curvier panel ever..you did a great save on that lid....respect.

Mart · 04-21-2016, 05:25 AM

Great work. A vast improvement over what you had. That's the key to any sort of metal work, unless your name is Ron Covell, just break each shape down into smaller easier to manage shapes and weld 'em all together.

I speak as a complete hack on the subject. My metalshaping skills are deplorable.

Mart.

white64 · 04-21-2016, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henry Hopper

Doubt there's a more curvier panel ever..you did a great save on that lid....respect.

True enough! It's almost obscene!

And thank you for the kind words... :-)

glennpm · 04-21-2016, 06:33 AM

Fantastic job and resurrection!

01-21-2016, 04:18 PM	#21
white64 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Pittston , MAine Posts: 222	Re: Doers any one make a repair panel for the bottom of a '40 trunk lid in the beginning... https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=168102 cutting, shaping, weldin and grinding don't scare me too much... just needs to think about it a bit...

01-21-2016, 05:33 PM	#22
swoopNZ MEMBER EMERITUS Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,380	Re: Doers any one make a repair panel for the bottom of a '40 trunk lid Had the same problem on my 39 coupe. Body man fixed it in about 4 hours.

01-21-2016, 05:45 PM	#23
white64 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Pittston , MAine Posts: 222	Re: Doers any one make a repair panel for the bottom of a '40 trunk lid there's one on ebay right now for $250 outside of Pittsburg, but no shipping, bummer #2 ...

01-22-2016, 04:41 PM	#25
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 17,410	Re: Doers any one make a repair panel for the bottom of a '40 trunk lid Forming "Free Hand" is a lot like any other type of art. It's all by eye & sometimes repetition. You were fortunate to still have a fair bit of the inner structure to indicate the shape there to some extent. I can tell it still ain't easy. A person would likely need a buck to form a section the size you might have needed if you didn't have something to point you in the right direction. A person would need an original part to pattern the buck or bucks after so that complicates things a lot. It's too bad they don't supply inner and outer skins for the 39 & 40 coupe lids but even if someone does, they might be pricey these days. You are well on the way and it's looks like you are doing good to me. Keep it up. We don't get a lot of build contributions on this site like the HAMB does and it is very welcome.

02-11-2016, 04:51 PM	#27
Art Maurice Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 88	Re: Doers any one make a repair panel for the bottom of a '40 trunk lid Hi Pat, Nice job!! Art.

02-11-2016, 07:22 PM	#28
white64 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Pittston , MAine Posts: 222	Re: Doers any one make a repair panel for the bottom of a '40 trunk lid Thanks Art! (Art is a great guy who's been into old fords for a very long time, he sold me the sedan which w/o, this build would never have been possible... we both made great use of the sedan, or what was left of it...)

02-12-2016, 06:21 AM	#29
CSArno Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Maine Posts: 378	Re: Doers any one make a repair panel for the bottom of a '40 trunk lid Looking great Pat! I would like to come check it out sometime. I got my 8BA home from Walts yesterday. Might put it in today if I don't freeze to death... 0 here right now.. Chris

03-18-2016, 04:07 PM	#32
40cpe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Star, MS Posts: 4,120	Re: Doers any one make a repair panel for the bottom of a '40 trunk lid Making something out of nothing...Good job.

03-18-2016, 07:16 PM	#33
TJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Napa,California Posts: 6,566	Re: Doers any one make a repair panel for the bottom of a '40 trunk lid Just for info I saw a new Subaru yesterday sporting a color that looks identical to Folkstone Gray. Might be something to look at when you are ready to paint.

04-20-2016, 08:57 PM	#35
white64 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Pittston , MAine Posts: 222	Re: Doers any one make a repair panel for the bottom of a '40 trunk lid I'll take a few pictures of the repaired fenders, from the inside of course (I'm not so anal as to finish the insides! :-) ) The finished deck lid:

04-21-2016, 01:34 AM	#36
Henry Hopper Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: N.W.England Posts: 439	Re: Doers any one make a repair panel for the bottom of a '40 trunk lid Doubt there's a more curvier panel ever..you did a great save on that lid....respect.

04-21-2016, 05:25 AM	#37
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 9,088	Re: Doers any one make a repair panel for the bottom of a '40 trunk lid Great work. A vast improvement over what you had. That's the key to any sort of metal work, unless your name is Ron Covell, just break each shape down into smaller easier to manage shapes and weld 'em all together. I speak as a complete hack on the subject. My metalshaping skills are deplorable. Mart.

04-21-2016, 06:33 AM	#39
glennpm Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Mid-Coast Maine Posts: 2,815	Re: Doers any one make a repair panel for the bottom of a '40 trunk lid Fantastic job and resurrection!