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Old 09-16-2015, 02:27 PM   #1
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Default Pressure plate bolts

How many of you guys are using shoulder bolts on your V8 pressure plate . If you are where are you getting them.Thanks John
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Old 09-16-2015, 02:50 PM   #2
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Old 09-16-2015, 03:13 PM   #3
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The bolts they Sell have too long of a shoulder just like the rest of them. Thanks John
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Old 09-16-2015, 03:28 PM   #4
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Have you tried Roy Nacewicz?

www.fordbolts.com

Page 17 of his Early V-8 catalog lists the following:


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Clutch and pressure plate assembly to flywheel attachment $ 3.95/pkg

6 thick-headed bolts and lock washers: 1935-48 (12 pcs/pkg)

Hope this helps.
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Old 09-16-2015, 05:37 PM   #5
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McCaster sells them in various length shoulders. If all else fails order them to the nearest 1/8 longer than what you need and size them in a lathe. Been there done that that with things other things. Just a thought. Rod
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I use non shoulder grade 8 bolts and lock washers and never had a problem
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Old 09-16-2015, 07:36 PM   #7
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I use non shoulder grade 8 bolts and lock washers and never had a problem
That's the same as we sold, when I worked for Vepco Clutch Rebuilders.
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Old 09-16-2015, 08:19 PM   #8
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Huh?
I use them on my V8 clutch and they are the correct length, both shoulder and thread.
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Old 09-16-2015, 10:43 PM   #9
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Shoulder bolts locate clutch assembly on the flywheel better than bolts that are threaded all the way to the head. The shoulder needs to extend past the mounting surface of the clutch cover apx. 1/8 in or so and the threaded hole in the flywheel needs to be counter bored a little to allow room for the shoulder.

The clutch assembly needs to be balanced with the flywheel and marked so when removed, the clutch can be re-installed in the same orientation as it was when balanced. This may be a very small point but everything will be in better balance if there is no "slop" in the mounting bolts. Regular grade 5 or grade 8 bolts will not fit the holes in the clutch cover as tight as a shoulder bolt.

A grade eight bolt will hold the clutch on the flywheel and there may not be a problem as such but a shoulder bolt will help keep things in better balance. With a slow speed Model A engine this is not as much as a problem but it can with more modern engines that rev. higher. Not using shoulder bolts can create a vibration that you can definitely feel.

Actually, these are not really shoulder bolts. A true shoulder bolt has a length of the shank of the bolt that is a much larger diameter than the threaded part. I.E. the shoulder may be 1/2 in. dia. where the threaded part is 3/8 dia. I call bolts for a clutch 'clutch bolts" where the un-threaded part under the head is "full diameter" then the threads start. I.E. the "shoulder on a 3/8 in. clutch bolt would be full 3/8 dia. (.375 in.) and then the threads start. Regular grade 5 and grade 8 bolts will have the un-threaded portion under the head slightly smaller than the nominal bolt size.

I am very fortunate to have a good speed shop just down the street that has a good selection of this type of hardware. They also do my balancing.

My opinion,

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Old 09-17-2015, 06:21 AM   #10
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Chris W. Good reply Thanks John
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Old 09-17-2015, 06:51 AM   #11
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Here is what came to mind when the OP used the term. I think the term long shanked would have been a better choice. Rod

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Old 09-17-2015, 08:40 AM   #12
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I used the old shoulder bolts in half of the locations to be certain that the clutch plate was centered. Then used new regular bolts in the other locations to "freeze" the plate in the correct position. Then replaced the old bolts with new ones.
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