The Ford Barn

denis4x4 · 04-06-2015, 08:23 AM

From Hemmings this morning:

This Day in Automotive History
4/6/1934: Ford introduces whitewall tires as an $11.25 option on all its new cars.

mshmodela · 04-06-2015, 10:36 AM

Happy whitewall day to all who have them.

rogerkb1936 · 04-06-2015, 10:41 AM

yucky poo

DougVieyra · 04-06-2015, 10:46 AM

Remember too, that those white wall tires had the white walls on BOTH sides of the tire, a practice that continued until after WW11 (1945).

C26Pinelake · 04-06-2015, 11:52 AM

I love my whitewalls and all my cars have them but I save the black walls for my trucks.
Wayne

silversink · 04-06-2015, 11:59 AM

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invented in 1914 as a carrage tire and a popular accessory on cars in the 20s and 30s

Joop · 04-06-2015, 12:09 PM

Very interesting to read.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewall_tire

mhsprecher · 04-06-2015, 12:33 PM

Both of my cars came with whitewalls. I will replace the whites on my TS this spring. I am not a whitewall fan, but I kind of like them on the roadster. I will figure out what to do with that when the time comes. The Garfields on the car now are in pretty good shape for their age.

160B · 04-06-2015, 01:01 PM

From the posted link to Whitewall tire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewall_tire

"The status of whitewall tires versus blackwall tires was originally the reverse of what it later became, with fully black tires requiring a greater amount of carbon black and less effort to maintain a clean appearance these were considered the premium tire; since the black tires first became available they were commonly fitted to many luxury cars through the 1930s. During the late-1920s gleaming whitewalls contrasted against darker surroundings were considered a stylish, but high-maintenance feature."

Super88 · 04-06-2015, 02:01 PM

Final word? You're dreaming, right?

ronn · 04-06-2015, 02:14 PM

Final word? You're dreaming, right?

I hate wws............................................... ..........

BILL WILLIAMSON · 04-06-2015, 02:39 PM

Volvo has developed a clear spray on can, that can be sprayed on ANYTHING, BIKES, BACK PACKS, CLOTHES, ETC. It glows BRIGHT white, under lights, lasts 2 weeks, & washes off easily!! IMAGINE, white wheels & tires, even!! OR, Buster T, in ALL WHITE!!!
Bill W.

Dusty · 04-06-2015, 02:41 PM

I hope someone comes out with raised white letter

Tom Wesenberg · 04-06-2015, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

Volvo has developed a clear spray on can, that can be sprayed on ANYTHING, BIKES, BACK PACKS, CLOTHES, ETC. It glows BRIGHT white, under lights, lasts 2 weeks, & washes off easily!! IMAGINE, white wheels & tires, even!! OR, Buster T, in ALL WHITE!!!
Bill W.

If I retard my spark lever I have a glow in the dark exhaust manifold.

fiddlybits · 04-06-2015, 05:17 PM

I am not a fan of the look of white wall tire but I love the look of white tires.

But in both cases you have to use detergent oil to keep them clean.

MikeK · 04-06-2015, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by denis4x4

From Hemmings this morning:

This Day in Automotive History
4/6/1934: Ford introduces whitewall tires as an $11.25 option on all its new cars.

Final word in what way? Ford knew many dealers sold unauthorized accessories, this only confirms Henry decided in 1934 to take his cut from the ongoing tire upgrade.

During the A run, everyone had to buy another tube and tire from the dealer for the spare wheel. This made it very easy to sell WW's. No need for the dealer to dismount or remount any tires- if one in four customers wanted WW's the dealer could just swap the brand new black walls for the bare rims on other stock and mount the WW's on those rims.

A good, profitable deal for dealers. The blackwalls never needed to be dismounted, only swapped as spares as long as you sold four cars with blackwalls for every whitewall sale. I've seen original invoices with "white tires" listed in the sale. Those cars rolled out of the showroom on WW's!

Tiny · 04-06-2015, 09:48 PM

So no proper place on an A!!! Now on a 34......

ModelAMike1930 · 04-06-2015, 10:00 PM

I Love White Walls On Passenger Cars--But Not On Pickups..

31Abone · 04-06-2015, 10:30 PM

It says 1934 ? whats that got to do with Model A's ????

fiddlybits · 04-07-2015, 08:13 AM

and of course the reverse argument... why can't later offered options be applied to earlier cars?

example: I have a 2001 Prius (Gen 1) ... Cruise control was not an option .... but I have installed the factory cruise control from the 2002-2003 models. This is not wrong so why would putting a later option on an A be any different.

(let the games begin!)

04-06-2015, 08:23 AM	#1
denis4x4 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Durango CO Posts: 1,314	This should be the final word on A's with WW's From Hemmings this morning: This Day in Automotive History 4/6/1934: Ford introduces whitewall tires as an $11.25 option on all its new cars. __________________ No restorable Model A's were harmed in the building of this truck!

04-06-2015, 10:36 AM	#2
mshmodela Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 2,763	Re: This should be the final word on A's with WW's Happy whitewall day to all who have them. __________________ -Mike Late 31' Ford Model A Tudor, Miss Daisy I don't work on cars --I'm learning about my Model A. Cleveland, Ohio

04-06-2015, 10:41 AM	#3
rogerkb1936 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 829	Re: This should be the final word on A's with WW's yucky poo

04-06-2015, 10:46 AM	#4
DougVieyra Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Eureka, California Posts: 1,716	Re: This should be the final word on A's with WW's Remember too, that those white wall tires had the white walls on BOTH sides of the tire, a practice that continued until after WW11 (1945).

04-06-2015, 11:52 AM	#5
C26Pinelake BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Michigan / Ontario border, Sarnia, Ontario. 50 miles from Detroit and 150 from Toronto. Posts: 5,800	Re: This should be the final word on A's with WW's I love my whitewalls and all my cars have them but I save the black walls for my trucks. Wayne

04-06-2015, 11:59 AM	#6
silversink Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Dayton Oregon Posts: 318	Re: This should be the final word on A's with WW's Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) invented in 1914 as a carrage tire and a popular accessory on cars in the 20s and 30s __________________ Hotrods don't have valve covers

04-06-2015, 12:09 PM	#7
Joop Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 2,955	Re: This should be the final word on A's with WW's Very interesting to read. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewall_tire

04-06-2015, 12:33 PM	#8
mhsprecher Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Takoma Park, MD Posts: 2,825	Re: This should be the final word on A's with WW's Both of my cars came with whitewalls. I will replace the whites on my TS this spring. I am not a whitewall fan, but I kind of like them on the roadster. I will figure out what to do with that when the time comes. The Garfields on the car now are in pretty good shape for their age.

04-06-2015, 01:01 PM	#9
160B Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Port Orchard, WA Posts: 1,498	Re: This should be the final word on A's with WW's From the posted link to Whitewall tire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewall_tire "The status of whitewall tires versus blackwall tires was originally the reverse of what it later became, with fully black tires requiring a greater amount of carbon black and less effort to maintain a clean appearance these were considered the premium tire; since the black tires first became available they were commonly fitted to many luxury cars through the 1930s. During the late-1920s gleaming whitewalls contrasted against darker surroundings were considered a stylish, but high-maintenance feature." __________________ 1931 160B & 1931 68B If you don't have time to do it right the 1st time, how do you have time to do it the 2nd time?

04-06-2015, 02:01 PM	#10
Super88 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SE Corner of WI Posts: 169	Re: This should be the final word on A's with WW's Final word? You're dreaming, right?

04-06-2015, 02:14 PM	#11
ronn Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NNNNNNNNJJJJJJJJJJ Posts: 6,842	Re: This should be the final word on A's with WW's Final word? You're dreaming, right? I hate wws............................................... ..........

04-06-2015, 02:39 PM	#12
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: This should be the final word on A's with WW's Volvo has developed a clear spray on can, that can be sprayed on ANYTHING, BIKES, BACK PACKS, CLOTHES, ETC. It glows BRIGHT white, under lights, lasts 2 weeks, & washes off easily!! IMAGINE, white wheels & tires, even!! OR, Buster T, in ALL WHITE!!! Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

04-06-2015, 02:41 PM	#13
Dusty Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lincolnton, Georgia Posts: 723	Re: This should be the final word on A's with WW's I hope someone comes out with raised white letter

04-06-2015, 05:17 PM	#15
fiddlybits Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: N Illinois Posts: 447	Re: This should be the final word on A's with WW's I am not a fan of the look of white wall tire but I love the look of white tires. But in both cases you have to use detergent oil to keep them clean.

04-06-2015, 09:48 PM	#17
Tiny Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Redding Cal Posts: 1,388	Re: This should be the final word on A's with WW's So no proper place on an A!!! Now on a 34...... __________________ Blackwall Panthers Nor Cal chapter

04-06-2015, 10:00 PM	#18
ModelAMike1930 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Illinois Posts: 382	Re: This should be the final word on A's with WW's I Love White Walls On Passenger Cars--But Not On Pickups..

04-06-2015, 10:30 PM	#19
31Abone Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Big pine Ca 93513 Posts: 797	Re: This should be the final word on A's with WW's It says 1934 ? whats that got to do with Model A's ????

04-07-2015, 08:13 AM	#20
fiddlybits Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: N Illinois Posts: 447	Re: This should be the final word on A's with WW's and of course the reverse argument... why can't later offered options be applied to earlier cars? example: I have a 2001 Prius (Gen 1) ... Cruise control was not an option .... but I have installed the factory cruise control from the 2002-2003 models. This is not wrong so why would putting a later option on an A be any different. (let the games begin!)