1933 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton in France

[torpedo]

Thanks Trevor.

[mercman from oz]

My 1934 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton - Australian body

[DavidG]

It's a lovely car, but there would have been a better source for opinions as to its origins such as the Club's '33 technical advisor. Because Ford of Australia was at that time a subsidiary of Ford of Canada, some confusion is understandable, especially since the latter supplied the former with its V8 power trains and chassis components. However, Ford of Australia manufactured its own bodies which had a numerous unique features to simplify their construction and hold down the costs. One of those features was the more extensive use of wood in the bodies in response to the lower sales volumes of largely domestic sales only without exports.


Trevor's comments as to the car's origins are accurate. It is well traveled.,

[uncle buck]

Originally Posted by DavidG

It's a lovely car, but there would have been a better source for opinions as to its origins such as the Club's '33 technical advisor. Because Ford of Australia was at that time a subsidiary of Ford of Canada, some confusion is understandable, especially since the latter supplied the former with its V8 power trains and chassis components. However, Ford of Australia manufactured its own bodies which had a numerous unique features to simplify their construction and hold down the costs. One of those features was the more extensive use of wood in the bodies in response to the lower sales volumes of largely domestic sales only without exports.


Trevor's comments as to the car's origins are accurate. It is well traveled.,

I have a Canadian '34 standard phaeton (no cowl lights) that I imported to the US from Ontario, Canada. The body appears to be the same as a US manufactured body other than the floor pan. The floor has battery access openings on both sides, possibly to interchange for both RHD and LHD production?

[torpedo]

Welcome to the gang of Phaeton owners !
My car, presumably of Canadian origin, does not have openings on both sides. Just one on right side.

[mercman from oz]

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Front Floor in Australian 1933/1934 Fords

[torpedo]

Hi Trevor,
Good photos. I have this on my car

[DavidG]

The photo below is of a '33 Canadian passenger car floor. The U.S.floor was the same. In both cases, a second battery access hole was added for RHD V8 applications as both Ford of Canada and Ford U.S. built both LHD and RHD vehicles for export (but not with made in Australia bodies).


Between Trevor's floor photos and this attachment, this discussion should be pretty well settled. You have a '33 Australian phaeton.

[torpedo]

Hi Trevor,
Many thanks for this information. I will double check but I believe the car has wooden floor boards. This would means the car was assembled in Australia.
With information posted by David (post #21) it would make sense that a Canadian-built engine was installed in the car. It is probably the engine serial number C18HF**** that led Chris Sanders (RG#127) to declare it manufactured in Canada.
What still puzzles me is despite that I do not have full owners history, I did trace two US-based owners in Illinois back in the 80's.
Maybe a previous owner shipped it from Australia ?...
Many thanks David for providing the final and binding verdict

[DavidG]

While noticeably less post-'32, a fair number of Australian '32 phaetons were imported here by American hobbyists in the 1970s and 1980s.

[torpedo]

Trevor,
Are there any other things that were specific to Australian phaetons that I could check up on my car apart from floor boards ?

[rockfla]

The body number on the cowl, as Trevor pointed out, would be a biggy!!!

[torpedo]

I agree with you rockfla but after careful inspection I could not find any number on the cowl...

[mercman from oz]

British Empire Product Emblem fitted to Dash on Australian 1933-1934 Fords

[mercman from oz]

1933 Canadian passenger car floor - DavidG

[uncle buck]

This is the floor in my 34 Canadian standard phaeton

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by uncle buck

This is the floor in my 34 Canadian standard phaeton

[TomC750]

A friend of mine had a German Ford, wish I had a pic. Similar to the French ones. He sold it and since passed.

[rockfla]

Originally Posted by TomC750

A friend of mine had a German Ford, wish I had a pic. Similar to the French ones. He sold it and since passed.

Do you remember what year German Ford, what the color was?? I have been following ALL German Ford's I can find since about 2003 and never knew of one up in Tennessee??? I am always eager to find out about more of them!!!

[DavidG]

Torpedo,


Other things? Please refer to Trevor's two photos in #2 and #3 above. If the body does come down all the way to the way to the top of the running boards, the doors must be shorter, top to bottom. You also keeping overlooking the narrower doors with eight separate hinges compared to only four combined hinges on Canadian and U.S. 33-'34 phaeton bodies