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mercman from oz 02-14-2025 03:52 AM

1933 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton in France
 

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1739523027

This 1933 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton is shown in the Nov/Dec 2024 issue of V8 Times.
It is Right Hand Drive, and was obviously built in Australia.

mercman from oz 02-14-2025 04:02 AM

Re: 1933 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton in France
 

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1739523613

You may be wondering why I stated that this 1933 Ford Phaeton (Post 1) was built in Australia?
Take a look at the 4 separate Door Hinges on this 1933 Ford Phaeton, plus the false panel above the Running Boards.
The above illustration shows the Centre Pillar, Doors and False Panel on an Australian 1934 Ford Phaeton.
That is why I suggested that it was originally built in Australia.

mercman from oz 02-14-2025 04:10 AM

Re: 1933 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton in France
 

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1739523829

Compare this photo of the Doors and Centre Pillar on this American 1934 Ford Deluxe Phaeton.
Notice that both Doors swing on the same Hinges, unlike the Australian design.
There is no False Panel above the Running Boards.
That is why I suggested that it was originally built in Australia.
No body part except for the Cowl is interchangeable between these two countries of manufacture.

rockfla 02-14-2025 07:39 AM

Re: 1933 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton in France
 

Trevor
Thank you for sharing this interesting information on the Aussie phaetons....The 33 you posted pictures of has body color fenders....what that standard practice in Australia OR an owner decision??? ALSO I noticed the Aussie Phaeton with what looks like"different" style door handles or is it just a funky reflection of them???

uncle buck 02-14-2025 09:16 AM

Re: 1933 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton in France
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockfla (Post 2369361)
ALSO I noticed the Aussie Phaeton with what looks like"different" style door handles or is it just a funky reflection of them???

The picture is fuzzy , but the handles look like 32 handles to me.

deuce lover 02-14-2025 10:38 AM

Re: 1933 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton in France
 

33 roadster and phaeton outside door handles are identical to 32's except for the length of the shank.The end of the shank is threaded for securing the inside handle which a 32 does not have.

rockfla 02-14-2025 10:48 AM

Re: 1933 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton in France
 

Sheldon


Thanks for the continuing education.....Amazing all the detail changes from year to year. Blows me away!!

mercman from oz 02-14-2025 04:40 PM

Re: 1933 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton in France
 

The Green Phaeton in Post #2 is actually an early production 1934 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton.
It has the lowest Body Number for a Australian 1934 Ford Phaeton.
There was no break in numbers starting with the 1933 models.
All Body Numbers lower than this example are 1933 models.
As such, they were fitted with 1932-1933 style Door Handles.

mercman from oz 02-14-2025 04:41 PM

Re: 1933 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton in France
 

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...mp;d=173956883

Exterior Door Handle for 1932, 1933 and early 1934 Australian Open Fords

mercman from oz 02-14-2025 04:41 PM

Re: 1933 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton in France
 

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1739568882

Exterior Door Handle for late 1934 Australian Open Fords

mercman from oz 02-14-2025 04:47 PM

Re: 1933 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton in France
 

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1739569553

Interior Door Handle on 1933- 1934 Australian Open Fords

alchemy 02-14-2025 05:15 PM

Re: 1933 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton in France
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by mercman from oz (Post 2369345)
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1739523829


No body part except for the Cowl is interchangeable between these two countries of manufacture.


Even the cowls are different.

mercman from oz 02-14-2025 05:57 PM

Re: 1933 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton in France
 

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1739573725

Modification to Australian Cowls on Australian 1933 and 1934 Fords.
The only difference in the Cowls that I am aware of is that the bottom of the original imported Cowls were pie-cut to raise the bottom moulding to line up with the False Panel on Australian 1933 and 1934 Fords.
Refer to above photo showing the different angle this moulding takes after it was modified.
However, before this modification, they started out as the same

mercman from oz 02-14-2025 06:06 PM

Re: 1933 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton in France
 

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1739574327

American 1934 Ford Cowl showing Moulding in original position on top of Running Board.

DavidG 02-14-2025 09:25 PM

Re: 1933 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton in France
 

Sheldon,


To avoid or perhaps create confusion, the North American Model A - '32 open car outside door handle shank are threaded like the '33 open car handles. It's the shank length that differs with the shank on the '33 handle nearly 3/4" longer.



I wish the vendors would correct their listings as they list them all as being equal, which they are not. Reproductions of the '33 handles haven't been available for years.

Karl Wescott 02-14-2025 09:36 PM

Re: 1933 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton in France
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by mercman from oz (Post 2369484)
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1739568882

Exterior Door Handle for late 1934 Australian Open Fords


This appears to me to be the exterior style of 1932-34 closed cars with the mounting bezel of the 1932 3 Window/1933-34 closed car style. My understanding is the US "1934" open car handle did not have the pronounced "eyebrow" of the closed car handle and used the narrow bezel similar in dimensions to 1929-33 open cars.


The inside handle appears to me to be the same or very close to what was used US 1929-31 and 1933-34 open cars, and was also used on the panel truck rear doors 1929-1956 (or even later).

highbeams 02-15-2025 01:46 AM

Re: 1933 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton in France
 

Thanks much for this!

DavidG 02-15-2025 02:16 AM

Re: 1933 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton in France
 

Karl,


And station wagons of the era.

torpedo 02-15-2025 06:19 AM

Re: 1933 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton in France
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by mercman from oz (Post 2369341)
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1739523027

This 1933 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton is shown in the Nov/Dec 2024 issue of V8 Times.
It is Right Hand Drive, and was obviously built in Australia.

Hello Mercman and Barn members.
Thanks for relaying the V8-Times article.
I am the proud owner of this car. I confirm it is right-hand drive !
The car was built in Canada most probably Q1 1933, confirmed by RG127 president soon after purchase in 2000.
I try to keep it as original as possible but had to fit repro parts as and when since NOS parts are very difficult to source in Europe.
Happy to share more details to those interested.
Take care

mercman from oz 02-15-2025 11:11 PM

Re: 1933 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton in France
 

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1739660254

Hi torpedo, I love your 1933 Ford Deluxe V8 Phaeton.
Can you please tell me the Body Number of your car.
This is the location of the Body Number on 1933 and 1934 Ford Cowls
Please add a colour photo of your 1933 Ford to this Thread.
Regards Mercman <><


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