The Ford Barn

32forddump · 03-20-2015, 06:00 PM

Now, thats going to be fun!

Brendan · 03-20-2015, 06:07 PM

no, I just tried to stick this in for fun, I had to do some work on the banger. I needed to get the hole thing back about 1 to 1 and a half inch. this is all stuff I have been thinking about the block was hitting the firewall about where the intake is sitting on top of the block, I would have to trim the firewall a little bit

Ol' Ron · 03-21-2015, 07:39 AM

The Tardel book is the best place to start.

jimTN · 03-21-2015, 07:56 AM

I saw one here locally that was unique in that the wishbones were split and engine dropped down lower in the frame so that it cleared the firewall. Years ago I had one and the firewall was cut to clear back of the engine and moved back. Stock steering did not get in the way. It had a 49-53 truck engine.

bart78 · 03-21-2015, 09:36 AM

The only flathead that I know of. That does not fit is the 8ba. But can make it fit with a 85a cam truck pumps and crab style distributer. If using a 32 k member. You can use 34 style wishbones. And not have to split them. Buy the Tardel book. It has all the info you need.

V8COOPMAN · 03-21-2015, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bart78

The only flathead that I know of. That does not fit is the 8ba. But can make it fit with a 85a cam truck pumps and crab style distributer. If using a 32 k member. You can use 34 style wishbones. And not have to split them. Buy the Tardel book. It has all the info you need.

I'm curious about this "85a cam truck pump" thing. DD

Bader · 03-21-2015, 10:08 AM

8ba doesn't fit? Guess I should stop driving mine then!

bart78 · 03-21-2015, 10:21 AM

You can make a 8ba fit. It's two inches longer than a 59a. I've seen them in tons of A's. But things were changed to the car or the engine to get them in.

bart78 · 03-21-2015, 10:35 AM

85a cam and truck water pumps.

rotorwrench · 03-21-2015, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bart78

85a cam and truck water pumps.

Are you sure you don't mean 59A? I've never seen an 85A prefix. 81A yes for 1938 parts but no 85A.

The HAMB is the best place to enquire about big questions like this. The Bishop/Tardel book has a lot of information but is by no means all of the information. It's just a known traditional method that can be made to work if you follow that exact plan. There are way to many varialbles for a single post entry.

deuce_roadster · 03-21-2015, 10:59 AM

My first car (started building it when I was 12, am 65 now) was a 30 model A with a flathead and 39 trans. Stock steering and rear end, but I had to trim the firewall. Had a crab distributor a 33 radiator and never ran a fan. Drove it to high school. It also never overheated!

bart78 · 03-21-2015, 11:23 AM

Yeah 59a sorry. Been a crappy morning. Some jack ass backed into my wife's car at the store this morning. And did not feel the need to stick around. Still mad about it.

Bader · 03-22-2015, 10:51 AM

8ba in mine,38 trans,38 rear,did not cut firewall or move rad,it's tight but it all fits.

TonyM · 03-22-2015, 02:02 PM

And the OP disappeared.

Charlie Stephens · 03-22-2015, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyM

And the OP disappeared.

Everyone must be e-mailing him the information like he requested in his original post.

Charlie Stephens

CarlG · 03-26-2015, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyM

And the OP disappeared.

He must have changed his mind. He listed an engine for sale on the swap meet 3-days after his original post.

Bassman/NZ · 03-26-2015, 04:23 PM

We'll keep it going anyway, as there may be others looking to do the same thing. And besides which, it's fun!
Here's old shots of mine, the body was moved back to give engine room.

House of Fab · 03-26-2015, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bassman/NZ

We'll keep it going anyway, as there may be others looking to do the same thing. And besides which, it's fun!
Here's old shots of mine, the body was moved back to give engine room.

Whats the info on the steering box?
Is it a right hand version of an F-1/F100 style box
Nice job.

Bassman/NZ · 03-26-2015, 06:05 PM

It's a VW Kombi box, I think in the US you call them a VW bus.

scooder · 03-22-2015, 06:03 PM

The only thing that's really in the way is the stock steering box. I tried with a two tooth A box, the column and rear corner of the head want the same space. You can move it (steering box) back along the chassis a bit, or move it out (looks horrible) or up on top of the chassis (looks horrible). But in the stock place, in my experience it don't fit.
Maybe the early 7 tooth box would clear? Anybody know?
I ask as I have a 7 tooth box for my A roadster project, but haven't got the space at the mo to put it together and see what's what.
Thanks,
Martin.

03-20-2015, 06:00 PM	#1
32forddump Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ashby, Mass Posts: 452	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A Now, thats going to be fun! __________________ I know I can, I know I can http://www.flickr.com/photos/waltsprojects/

03-20-2015, 06:07 PM	#2
Brendan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: At my kitchen table in Santa Rosa, Ca Posts: 2,976	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A no, I just tried to stick this in for fun, I had to do some work on the banger. I needed to get the hole thing back about 1 to 1 and a half inch. this is all stuff I have been thinking about the block was hitting the firewall about where the intake is sitting on top of the block, I would have to trim the firewall a little bit __________________ If it would have been a snake it would have bit ya! i can't spell my way out of a paper bag!

03-21-2015, 07:39 AM	#3
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,985	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A The Tardel book is the best place to start.

03-21-2015, 07:56 AM	#4
jimTN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Powell, TN Posts: 2,617	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A I saw one here locally that was unique in that the wishbones were split and engine dropped down lower in the frame so that it cleared the firewall. Years ago I had one and the firewall was cut to clear back of the engine and moved back. Stock steering did not get in the way. It had a 49-53 truck engine.

03-21-2015, 09:36 AM	#5
bart78 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Stephenville tx Posts: 1,019	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A The only flathead that I know of. That does not fit is the 8ba. But can make it fit with a 85a cam truck pumps and crab style distributer. If using a 32 k member. You can use 34 style wishbones. And not have to split them. Buy the Tardel book. It has all the info you need.

03-21-2015, 10:21 AM	#8
bart78 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Stephenville tx Posts: 1,019	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A You can make a 8ba fit. It's two inches longer than a 59a. I've seen them in tons of A's. But things were changed to the car or the engine to get them in.

03-21-2015, 10:35 AM	#9
bart78 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Stephenville tx Posts: 1,019	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A 85a cam and truck water pumps.

03-21-2015, 10:59 AM	#11
deuce_roadster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Shelton, WA Posts: 3,971	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A My first car (started building it when I was 12, am 65 now) was a 30 model A with a flathead and 39 trans. Stock steering and rear end, but I had to trim the firewall. Had a crab distributor a 33 radiator and never ran a fan. Drove it to high school. It also never overheated!

03-21-2015, 11:23 AM	#12
bart78 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Stephenville tx Posts: 1,019	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A Yeah 59a sorry. Been a crappy morning. Some jack ass backed into my wife's car at the store this morning. And did not feel the need to stick around. Still mad about it.

03-22-2015, 10:51 AM	#13
Bader Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Deer ridge Sask. can Posts: 181	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A 8ba in mine,38 trans,38 rear,did not cut firewall or move rad,it's tight but it all fits.

03-22-2015, 02:02 PM	#14
TonyM Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: West Hammond, Illinois Posts: 2,852	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A And the OP disappeared.

03-26-2015, 04:23 PM	#17
Bassman/NZ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Napier, New Zealand Posts: 2,001	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A We'll keep it going anyway, as there may be others looking to do the same thing. And besides which, it's fun! Here's old shots of mine, the body was moved back to give engine room.

03-26-2015, 06:05 PM	#19
Bassman/NZ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Napier, New Zealand Posts: 2,001	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A It's a VW Kombi box, I think in the US you call them a VW bus.

03-22-2015, 06:03 PM	#20
scooder Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,595	Re: Install a V8 Into a Model A The only thing that's really in the way is the stock steering box. I tried with a two tooth A box, the column and rear corner of the head want the same space. You can move it (steering box) back along the chassis a bit, or move it out (looks horrible) or up on top of the chassis (looks horrible). But in the stock place, in my experience it don't fit. Maybe the early 7 tooth box would clear? Anybody know? I ask as I have a 7 tooth box for my A roadster project, but haven't got the space at the mo to put it together and see what's what. Thanks, Martin.

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