New Block thread on H.A.M.B.

[Crazydaddyo]

There is another thread here on the barn with more info and a picture.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=135011

[Will Ziegler in LI NY]

Tod, welcome aboard. I like what I saw over on the hamb. Maybe you could give us a little bit of background info on yourself and post a couple pictures here for all of the A folks. Please keep us posted on your progress. Thanks for being an innovator and helping the hobby!

[Tod]

Originally Posted by Will Ziegler in LI NY

Tod, welcome aboard. I like what I saw over on the hamb. Maybe you could give us a little bit of background info on yourself and post a couple pictures here for all of the A folks. Please keep us posted on your progress. Thanks for being an innovator and helping the hobby!

My background is in the casting industry. 37 years. Almost every type of metal, casting process, pattern kind, CAD design, 3D CNC, machining programming, CNC repair, and a lot of other boring stuff. Aside from technical mathematics, my 6 years of university at 4 schools in 2 states is not worth talking about when it comes to my job. I have owned my own pattern shop/machine shop/ and at one time foundry for 23 years.

I will try to post some more pictures and maybe a video on Youtube of the first pour.

Tod

[James Rogers]

Originally Posted by Tod

My background is in the casting industry. 37 years. Almost every type of metal, casting process, pattern kind, CAD design, 3D CNC, machining programming, CNC repair, and a lot of other boring stuff. Aside from technical mathematics, my 6 years of university at 4 schools in 2 states is not worth talking about when it comes to my job. I have owned my own pattern shop/machine shop/ and at one time foundry for 23 years.

I will try to post some more pictures and maybe a video on Youtube of the first pour.

Tod

Tod, I watch this with eagerness. I would like to get in on the ground floor and help you sell as many as possible. This is one part that is not being reproduced yet accurately but, needs to be.

[Model A Man]

I hAve a ? Tod how much will a short block and or a long block cost when done . I need two. Thanks

[Tod]

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Originally Posted by Model A Man

I hAve a ? Tod how much will a short block and or a long block cost when done . I need two. Thanks

Right now, I'm only going to produce blocks. I will start looking into this request with a builder and see what he thinks.

Tod

[Tom Wesenberg]

Will the new block be cast from the same formula as the original block?
Or is there even a better mixture to use?

I've never done any casting, but it sure looks like an interesting thing to learn.

[Tod]

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

Will the new block be cast from the same formula as the original block?
Or is there even a better mixture to use?

I've never done any casting, but it sure looks like an interesting thing to learn.

The blocks are cast with the same alloy as my 351 Clevelands. They make all kinds of power, so I think it will be fine for these blocks. The aluminum will be 356 T6 with ductile sleeves, but that is secondary to the stock iron version.

Tod

[Mitch//pa]

i thought i read that the blocks were going to be sold thru snyders but i am not positive.

[Tod]

James and Mitch, I like Snyder's worldwide network as a foundation but due to secondary machining that will likely be based on a wide variety of customer needs, I may have to have a few strategically placed builders/finish machinists to meet market demand.

I'm still trying to get a feel for how many of these I need to make for a first run. Individuals are saying they want 1, or, 2, or 3, and I have not added that up yet, and it is also just talk so far. All that can happen until I make more samples and machine some is talk. But that is how we will determine demand. You know, am I going to sell a hundred of these or 2-3 hundred? A thousand? I don't know. I don't know how many Snyder can sell. Any help selling them is obviously welcome. Snyder's has been instrumental in helping my business along so I owe them my loyalty first.

Tod

[Mitch//pa]

Originally Posted by Tod

James and Mitch, I like Snyder's worldwide network as a foundation but due to secondary machining that will likely be based on a wide variety of customer needs, I may have to have a few strategically placed builders/finish machinists to meet market demand.

I'm still trying to get a feel for how many of these I need to make for a first run. Individuals are saying they want 1, or, 2, or 3, and I have not added that up yet, and it is also just talk so far. All that can happen until I make more samples and machine some is talk. But that is how we will determine demand. You know, am I going to sell a hundred of these or 2-3 hundred? A thousand? I don't know. I don't know how many Snyder can sell. Any help selling them is obviously welcome. Snyder's has been instrumental in helping my business along so I owe them my loyalty first.

Tod

thanks tod for getting back
there is lots of interest in this endeavor good luck

[kelley's restoration]

I want an aluminum one BAD
speedster baby
dragster
I have been planning a fed with a model a engine for a loooong time
as far as actually drilling out the bolts to see how much lighter I could make a model a engine
now with the option of a aluminum block (not a Donavon) I am giddy with excitement
tk

[Crazydaddyo]

Originally Posted by kelley's restoration

I want an aluminum one BAD
speedster baby
dragster
I have been planning a fed with a model a engine for a loooong time
as far as actually drilling out the bolts to see how much lighter I could make a model a engine
now with the option of a aluminum block (not a Donavon) I am giddy with excitement
tk

Me too !!!!!!!!

[mshmodela]

Clearly, at some point there will not be enough quality blocks (repairable at least) and new blocks needed. It is good to know a few out there willing to reverse engineer the blocks. Living near what was a massive Ford casting plant in Cleveland, which was closed and the scrap sold to China, the Art of Casting is dying. Thanks to the few, who stand the heat to keep it somewhat alive.

[Tod]

Originally Posted by mshmodela

Clearly, at some point there will not be enough quality blocks (repairable at least) and new blocks needed. It is good to know a few out there willing to reverse engineer the blocks. Living near what was a massive Ford casting plant in Cleveland, which was closed and the scrap sold to China, the Art of Casting is dying. Thanks to the few, who stand the heat to keep it somewhat alive.

Yep. You've got to be ahead of the curve. I've been in the old Ford foundry and it was pretty impressive. The plant manager at the time is a friend of my iron foundry's owner, Corey. We went there when I was sampling my second FE project.

We are just down the road from you in Youngstown.

Tod

[Model A Man]

I haven't had any luck with rebuilt motors, so I am hoping the price for the new motors will be able to be kept at reasonable price. I have been holding off from installing a more modern four or six cylinders in my model A's in hope that either Terry's or Todd's motors will be available soon.

[James Rogers]

Originally Posted by Model A Man

I haven't had any luck with rebuilt motors, so I am hoping the price for the new motors will be able to be kept at reasonable price. I have been holding off from installing a more modern four or six cylinders in my model A's in hope that either Terry's or Todd's motors will be available soon.

What makes you think a new block will make any of the builders you have used be a better builder? If you put lipstick on a pig it still will be a pig.

[dumb person]

Looks like i will be stuck with my model A a long long time. Nice to know someone is making replacement blocks. Maybe Snyders will have one on the shelf in 20 years or however long it takes for me to buy one. If the new transmission rumor is true someone wealthy could almost build a model A from new parts!

[James Rogers]

I guess that is also his right. The saying is "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen".

BTW, I build engines, I do my wife!

[Franchise_24]

Originally Posted by James Rogers

BTW, I build engines, I do my wife!

Uhhh.........congrats? LOL